noble Gown by monca533

[The Merrye Makers]

ITEM,POLY COUNT,CHANNELS,AGE,GENDER,CATEGORY,GAME
Medieval Noble Dress,Maxis mesh,3,Teen/Young Adult/Adult/Elder,female, Everyday and formal,Base

[leesester]

The pics are still looking very small tbh. See example BIG PIC :)

http://www.modyourpanties.com/hosting/32399_111208084324plain.jpg
http://www.modyourpanties.com/hosting/32397_111208082312detail.jpg
http://www.modyourpanties.com/hosting/32398_111208082816-side.jpg

I noticed while casting that its advisable to use very similar colours on the embroidery and the panel behind as the detail is very fine. Have you considered making the belt castable instead of the panel behind the embroidery and just combining the embroidery and panel into one channel?

[monca533]

I see what you mean about the details, but if I make it, the embroided would be lost and not visible. That is why I chose contrasting colors for the embroided and the panel.
About the belt, I sincerally don't think it need to be castable, sorry.

About the pictures, you are right. I'll take others and post them in a little while.

[leesester]

Yes, it was just a suggestion on the belt - not a requirement. Looking forward to bigger pictures. :)

[monca533]

Hi Lee!
I took the pictures the bigger as I could, considering the size of my screen. I hope it is good enough.

I need your help: In Merrye Makers CR there is a change about the hat/hair. Well, sorry, but I couldn't understand what they want. Can you help me, please?
Thanks!!!

[leesester]

Yes Monca - I will take a look at the CR.

I have a 1440 by 900 screen (and a relatively kick ass PC) and those are as big as I could get them. I think that if we can have the 3 (big as you can) pictures of the relevant life stages and then do some detail shots that show the dress from the front and back and sides. Those can be zoomed in more and will not need the face and feet of the sim, focusing more on the details.
The green dress shot I posted is a perfect size and angle, just terrible casting by me

http://www.modthesims.info/wiki.php?title=MTS2:Creator_Guidelines/Sims_3_CAS#Screenshots < Just if you want to look :)

What I am seeing in your pictures is pixellation - I took a look at the screenshot details and it looks like you are overcompressing. Get the pictures as BIG as you can, both in terms of size and saving for web as close to 250kb as possible.

[monca533]

Yes Monca - I will take a look at the CR.

I have a 1440 by 900 screen (and a relatively kick ass PC) and those are as big as I could get them. I think that if we can have the 3 (big as you can) pictures of the relevant life stages and then do some detail shots that show the dress from the front and back and sides. Those can be zoomed in more and will not need the face and feet of the sim, focusing more on the details.
The green dress shot I posted is a perfect size and angle, just terrible casting by me

http://www.modthesims.info/wiki.php?title=MTS2:Creator_Guidelines/Sims_3_CAS#Screenshots < Just if you want to look :)

What I am seeing in your pictures is pixellation - I took a look at the screenshot details and it looks like you are overcompressing. Get the pictures as BIG as you can, both in terms of size and saving for web as close to 250kb as possible.

Ok, Lee!
So, I'll take 6 pictures: three of the details (front, side and back) and three of the life stages (theese ones a bit smaller).

[leesester]

Yes - that CAST channel pic should be fine too :)

[monca533]

Well, it's a bit too late here and I have to go to bed. Tomorrow I'll update the pics.
Good night! :lovestruc

[The Merrye Makers]

yup - the first three pics you posted were VERY nice - in terms of angle and shot and showing the life stages - they just were a bit small, that was all. Try and avoid odd angles if you can - take the shots straight on for the life stages and as in the example for the back, front and sides.

Also, I see in the files a tf dress (teen female?) but in the post details it does not mention teen as an age.

[Esmeralda]

I need your help: In Merrye Makers CR there is a change about the hat/hair. Well, sorry, but I couldn't understand what they want. Can you help me, please?
Thanks!!!
When I saw your post I signed in as Merrye Makers to supply the colour channels pics they were requesting for the hair portion of the Hat Hair in the CR but I saw that you had already done it, thank you! They usually want the channels to be done in red, blue and green but hopefully those pics will be OK (I hope!).

[monca533]

yup - the first three pics you posted were VERY nice - in terms of angle and shot and showing the life stages - they just were a bit small, that was all. Try and avoid odd angles if you can - take the shots straight on for the life stages and as in the example for the back, front and sides.

Also, I see in the files a tf dress (teen female?) but in the post details it does not mention teen as an age.

Oh my!

You're right about the table. I'll fix it.
About the pictures, I'll try take them as big and detailed as I can.
Thanks for the hint!

[leesester]

When I saw your post I signed in as Merrye Makers to supply the colour channels pics they were requesting for the hair portion of the Hat Hair in the CR but I saw that you had already done it, thank you! They usually want the channels to be done in red, blue and green but hopefully those pics will be OK (I hope!).

arg arg arg - I curse bodyshop. I did not realise - blue red and green hair. But WHY??

:jest:

[monca533]

Please, please, say that is good now! :cry:
I wouldn't like to cut off the heads of the Sim... :lol:

[leesester]

lol - the three age shots are fine - and the detail shots are nice too. No beheading needed. The ONLY thing - and maybe you have a better compressing software than I do or something - the files are very small in terms of file size. None are over 100kb. That CAN cause the pics to look a little crunchy. And I have SEEN this dress in game and it is not crunchy AT ALL.

[monca533]

lol - the three age shots are fine - and the detail shots are nice too. No beheading needed. The ONLY thing - and maybe you have a better compressing software than I do or something - the files are very small in terms of file size. None are over 100kb. That CAN cause the pics to look a little crunchy. And I have SEEN this dress in game and it is not crunchy AT ALL.

I don't know why.
I'm just using the scissor tool of the Windows 7 to take the pictures and then I'm updanting those as they are.

Edit: What do you think if I put the pictures in the Photoshop and make the size higher?

[Esmeralda]

arg arg arg - I curse bodyshop. I did not realise - blue red and green hair. But WHY??

:jest:
Red, blue, green and white is what the upload mods have told me is the usual convention for hair - it just makes the four channels easy to see. I use yellow instead of white, because I myself think it shows up better - see example in my last hair upload (2nd picture): http://www.nene.modthesims.info/d/458794 . But the mods said you don't HAVE to use those particular colours, so I hope what you've already uploaded will be OK. If not and they send it back again, I'll re-shoot the recolour screenie myself, never fear!

[leesester]

The scissor tool? I don't know that tool. I play in fullscreen mode and take the screenshots using the c button. Then I open the screenshots in Photoshop and crop the image to size (usually using the canvas size tool). Finally I save the new cropped and sized images for web.

[leesester]

Red, blue, green and white is what the upload mods have told me is the usual convention for hair - it just makes the four channels easy to see. I use yellow instead of white, because I myself think it shows up better - see example in my last hair upload (2nd picture): http://www.nene.modthesims.info/d/458794 . But the mods said you don't HAVE to use those particular colours, so I hope what you've already uploaded will be OK. If not and they send it back again, I'll re-shoot the recolour screenie myself, never fear!

Ok, thanks Esmerelda. Lets hope it is ok.

I am trying to learn how to take upload shots - we need to redo all the pics for Rob's dresses as well...and the doublets etc from Kiara.


I don't know why.
I'm just using the scissor tool of the Windows 7 to take the pictures and then I'm updanting those as they are.

Edit: What do you think if I put the pictures in the Photoshop and make the size higher?

I would go with the play in fullscreen - use c button - edit screenshots approach. That might work better. I am assuming you have all settings as high as you can for upload shots?

[monca533]

The scissor tool? I don't know that tool. I play in fullscreen mode and take the screenshots using the c button. Then I open the screenshots in Photoshop and crop the image to size (usually using the canvas size tool). Finally I save the new cropped and sized images for web.

You'll find this tool under the Accessories under the Programs (in fact, the name of this tool is capture tool)

[monca533]

Yes! all the settings are in the maximum.

I'll try to do that thing in Photoshop and update the pics, so you can say if it's good. If not, I'll take the pics as you do.

[The Merrye Makers]

Well, I made higher the size of the pics. Personally, I could notice nothing different.
I'm waiting you to say what you think about for to take other pictures.

[leesester]

Hmm, I don't know. It will depend on card and PC specifications I realise, but can you try doing a shot with the game in fullscreen using the c button and then crop the screenshot and save for web? Just do ONE - the detail shot of the white dress and post that as an extra so we can see the two side by side.

Sorry about this - I realise its a nightmare redoing pictures (I hate it) but this dress is so lovely and I really want the downloader to see it at its very best.

[monca533]

Hmm, I don't know. It will depend on card and PC specifications I realise, but can you try doing a shot with the game in fullscreen using the c button and then crop the screenshot and save for web? Just do ONE - the detail shot of the white dress and post that as an extra so we can see the two side by side.

Sorry about this - I realise its a nightmare redoing pictures (I hate it) but this dress is so lovely and I really want the downloader to see it at its very best.

No problem! :D
I'll do that. About the graphic card, I've made an upgrade to make the furniture details looks better, so perhaps the crunchy effect is it.

[leesester]

Graphics cards. Ugh. I have a fancy graphics card (cost an arm and a leg) but I don't regret it. It makes TS3 playable for me (I hate blur with a passion) :D .

[monca533]

Graphics cards. Ugh. I have a fancy graphics card (cost an arm and a leg) but I don't regret it. It makes TS3 playable for me (I hate blur with a passion) :D .

Lol.. What graphic card is yours?

[leesester]

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This PC is a BEAST :rofl: I just need to bang another 4gb of memory in there.

[monca533]

Great!
The mine is almost like yours... :rofl:

Graphic card: GeForce 9500GT
Processor: Intel Core Quad CPU Q 8400 2.66

Well, I took the pic as you said. What do you think?

[leesester]

OK. (/me hides)

The test pic is giving no major difference. Please upload with the first 6 pics. Lets see how it goes. Please make a new upload post and upload via the wizard, do not edit the existing upload in the queue - I am hanging onto that as a place holder :)

[monca533]

Ok! I'll do, but there is no another post with this clothing to CR yet?
Just for me don't make a mistake: I have to make a new upload in the wizard?

Edit:I was joking you, I'm jealous of you....

[leesester]

Lol - yea, that card of yours is still not bad at all though. You know the really sad part? I play TS2 more.....

ANYWAY - yes, please make a new upload in the wizard. I will edit the text after posting to make it fancy :p .

[monca533]

Something strange is happening: I tried to make the upload (logged as Merrye Maker) and this message appeared:


"The Merrye Makers, you do not have permission to access this page. This could be due to one of several reasons:
1.If you are trying to access a download, it may have been removed by the Creator or by the Staff for policy violations or a number of other reasons.
2.Your user account may not have sufficient privileges to access this page. Are you trying to edit someone else's post, access administrative features or some other privileged system?
3.If you are trying to post, the administrator may have disabled your account from accessing this area.

Log OutHome "

[leesester]

That is very odd monca - did you have the remember option ticked?

[monca533]

That is very odd monca - did you have the remember option ticked?

Sims 3> Body Shop> Clothing> Female> Everyday> Choose a Category, after the announcements, under the upload files, that message appeared.

[leesester]

OK, let me try it.

[The Merrye Makers]

Ok, I tried it as The Merrye Makers - it let me through - you DID log out as monca before logging IN as the Merrye Makers?

[monca533]

Ok, I tried it as The Merrye Makers - it let me through - you DID log out as monca before logging IN as the Merrye Makers?
Yes, I did.

I'll try again.

[leesester]

Ok, if you can't get it to work then let me know.

[monca533]

It's done! :D

Edit: Woo Hoo!!!! The crown, circlet and hat are uploaded!!!! :bunny: :bunny: :bunny:

[leesester]

Yea - its GREAT to see all The Merrye Makers hard work and effort finally getting shared on the site :)

[monca533]

Yea - its GREAT to see all The Merrye Makers hard work and effort finally getting shared on the site :)

If our work is being uploaded so fast now, it's because YOU!!! :beer:

[leesester]

Thank you Monca - but really, I am just helping you guys. As you may have seen from the CRs (sigh) the group is not getting any extra favours just because I am helping. It is all the groups hard work and effort and really making the very best posts we can to showcase the items that is getting this upload finally visible.

Lets keep it up - but remember - it's nearly Christmas and you DON'T have to work 24/7 on these uploads. :)

[Esmeralda]

It's done! :D

Edit: Woo Hoo!!!! The crown, circlet and hat are uploaded!!!! :bunny: :bunny: :bunny:

Hooray! Thanks for putting that upload together!

I just logged in as Merrye Makers and edited a few things in it - changed the first part of the title to 'Ye Olde Kingdom of Pudding' rather than 'The Kingdom of Pudding' to be consistent with the other uploads, and added a bit to say that my hat is enabled for Teen-Elder rather than Young Adult-Elder.

Great to see more uploads appearing!

[leesester]

Thanks Esmeralda - good catch :)

[Esmeralda]

Thanks Esmeralda - good catch :)

Ack, just made one more change - re-did the thumbnail to depict the hat hair as well as the crowns/circlets, just noticed that it looked a bit odd to have an upload containing crowns, circlets and hat hair but to not have the hat hair in the thumbnail, hope that's OK.

Looking forward to more uploads!

[The Merrye Makers]

I see that we sent the noble's gown for consideration. Did we get some of the text regarding female clothing and The Merrye Makers "blurb" in there? If not, can we add it later? I would like to see the "blurb" in there to make it consistent with the other uploads. (The copy just makes them more fun, I think. I tried to tie in game references, sim traits, etc., into little stories to make it more interesting. However, my feelings aren't going to be hurt if we can't use it all.) SimmyRN

[leesester]

Simmy - I added a little blurb - not awesome but it is there - here is the text I added:

Greetings, good gentles/ladies. We are The Merrye Makers - a group of ten creators spanning all disciplines (clothing, lots, objects, etc.) offering for thy downloading pleasure a collection of medieval things most beauteous from Ye Olde Kingdom of Pudding -- otherwise known as "Simdom Pudding".

Around the year 1340 there was a change in women’s clothing, to tighter-fitting garments, lower necklines, and more curvaceous silhouettes; “tight lacing was used on women's clothes to create a form fitting shape which created a long-waisted appearance”.

I can of course edit that to something a bit more in your style if you post a text in reply. :)

[The Merrye Makers]

Ye Olde Kingdom of Pudding - Female Medieval Clothing
Nobles' Dress
Greetings, good gentles/ladies. We are The Merrye Makers - a group of ten creators spanning all disciplines (clothing, lots, objects, etc.) offering for thy downloading pleasure a collection of medieval things most beauteous from Ye Olde Kingdom of Pudding -- otherwise known as "Simdom Pudding".

Around the year 1340 there was a change in women’s clothing, to tighter-fitting garments, lower necklines, and more curvaceous silhouettes. "Tight lacing was used on women's clothes to create a form fitting shape which created a long-waisted appearance.” King Crumplebottom's queen consort, Agnes, wore golden crowns and brightly colored silks. Queen Agnes and Princess Jocasta had attendants to help them don their silken tunics. Lady-in-Waiting Iliana Langerak attended Princess Jocasta. The Queen's Women of the Bedchamber were in regular attendance, but her Mistress of the Robes, Lucille Spenster, and Ladies of the Bedchamber, Zelda and Rhoda Capp, were only required for ceremonial occasions.

Made by Monca533 for The Merrye Makers.

[monca533]

Ack, just made one more change - re-did the thumbnail to depict the hat hair as well as the crowns/circlets, just noticed that it looked a bit odd to have an upload containing crowns, circlets and hat hair but to not have the hat hair in the thumbnail, hope that's OK.

Looking forward to more uploads!

I think you did the right thing.

[leesester]

Simmy - edited.

[The Merrye Makers]

Thanks, Leesester! SimmyRN

[leesester]

Ack, just made one more change - re-did the thumbnail to depict the hat hair as well as the crowns/circlets, just noticed that it looked a bit odd to have an upload containing crowns, circlets and hat hair but to not have the hat hair in the thumbnail, hope that's OK.

Looking forward to more uploads!

I liked the idea of combining all three pictures in one, but the images were a bit small - so I have made a thumbnail gif. Take a look - if you like it we can keep it or we can swap it back to the one Esme made (is it ok to call you Esme?)

[Esmeralda]

I liked the idea of combining all three pictures in one, but the images were a bit small - so I have made a thumbnail gif. Take a look - if you like it we can keep it or we can swap it back to the one Esme made (is it ok to call you Esme?)
Fantastic, thanks for doing that! In my time zone it was bedtime and I wasn't 100% happy with what I put together but didn't have time to think up something more clever. Your animated thumbnail is perfect, shows all three items in a good visible size.

You can call me Esme, you can call me anything as long as it's not really, really rude, just don't call me late for dinner, ha ha.

[monca533]

I love the new presentation! Thanks a lot Lee! :bunny:

Would you please tell me where I can learn to make a thumbnail gif.? I ever wanted to put those to present my things.
Thank you!

[leesester]

I made it in Image Ready Monca - I have Photoshop 7. I just got the three images in layers and sized them to 150px square. Then I opened the document in Image Ready and made the three layers show in a timed sequence. Save as optimised gif and POW. Done.

[monca533]

I made it in Image Ready Monca - I have Photoshop 7. I just got the three images in layers and sized them to 150px square. Then I opened the document in Image Ready and made the three layers show in a timed sequence. Save as optimised gif and POW. Done.

Oh Lee, thank you very much!
From now, my things (when uploaded, of course) will have a nice presentation... :lol:

[monca533]

Hi Lee!
Please, there is a way to know whats happening with the gown upload?

[leesester]

Monca - I have been nagging the moderator, I hope to get a reply out to you soon. As I have said many times, body shop is not my area, so I dunno.

[The Merrye Makers]

Monca -
We received the following CR message for your lovely gown:

"Other reasons (these may be clarifications of above points, or additional reasons)
Hiya. I know you're probably sick of seeing CRs on this dress now! We do have four issues which hadn't been spotted before - partly because of the fantastic new pics, and partly because of the sheer quantity of things to consider in the bigger uploads. It's easy to miss details in a setting like that.

The first is very minor, and if you can't fix it, that's not a problem: but it's good to let you know so you can at least have a go. Looking at the pic of the back of the dress, the top of the arms look blocky and have a sort of sharp angle just under the armpit. It looks like this is a bone assignments thing; that those vertices are assigned wholly to the arm, whereas they should be assigned partly to the arm and partly to the shoulder, to get a nice smooth transition.

The second is regarding the stretching on the skirt. Long skirts like this will always have texture stretching at the bottom. However, in this case it seems very extreme, so it's worth trying to reduce it a little, even though you can't get rid of it completely. The simplest thing to do is probably to adjust the UV mapping, so that the map for the front and back of the skirt is wider and the map for the sides is narrower. This will mean that the texture will be slightly stretched at the sides, but it will also be less stretched at the front, so the overall effect will be more even.

Thirdly, the trim looks quite crunchy in places - you can see that especially at the back and on the arm. Perhaps the texture has been sharpened a bit too much?

Finally, the lacing down the side is nicely drawn, but there's nowhere for the laces to go - there should be small "holes" (or just rings, or slits) around the laces so they can actually be laced through the fabric (since laces have to be able to be pulled tight or loose, so they can't just be sewn in). Another option is to do rings or stitching on the outside of the dress, to create loops for the lacing to go through - if you fancy a challenge!"

SimmyRN