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#1 Old 29th Oct 2013 at 6:26 PM
Transgender sims?
Does anyone have any trans sims? how do you transition them? SimPE or do you just put clothing of the opposite gender on the sim? I'm thinking about making lilith pleasant a trans man, and just wanted to see how others went about it

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#2 Old 29th Oct 2013 at 6:46 PM
There's the androgyny set which I used to make a sort of gender neutral/non-binary sim, maybe that could be useful? But other than that, I don't know of much CC available to create transgender sims, unfortunately.

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#3 Old 29th Oct 2013 at 6:47 PM
I've had plenty of pre-op trans* sims both FTM and MTF. They stayed pre-op since I wasn't confident enough to go delving into SimPE and risk their data. I used clothes, make up, and hair to portray the look. There's clothes and bodyshapes out there that help make it seem more legit, along with a couple mods like the everyone sits to pee mod but unfortunately there aren't too many tasteful dresses for originally male sims. I don't think that it'd be unreal for there to be facial hair enabled for originally female sims, but I haven't seen or heard anything about it.

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#4 Old 29th Oct 2013 at 6:52 PM
i have some clothes for lilith for right now when shes not really sure about her identity, i think i am going to go into SimPE and try to change her gender. if i remember right i did it to buck grunt a while ago lol. that androgyny pack looks awesome and very helpful, thank you
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#5 Old 29th Oct 2013 at 6:54 PM
It's out there, but a lot of it's on GOS and therefore not currently accessible, a lot of it is MtF, and a lot of it won't be attractive for any particular sim. You may have to start creating your own. You can do a full transition via SimPE, changing the various elements in whatever order makes sense to you. I think there's a tutorial for it somewhere.

For starters, since Lilth won't be getting the surgery till she's grown, you can start off by having her dress butch, which you can do first with carefully-selected female clothing, then with male clothing that doesn't quite fit (changing the gender assignments in Wardrobe Wrangler, for instance), and work your way up, just like a real trans teen has to do. A lot of male hairstyles are also available for females, right here at MTS. Search under transgender, transsexual, FtM, and so on.

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#6 Old 29th Oct 2013 at 7:08 PM
im on that track right now, Peni. she got a hair cut, and has begun wearing looser fitting clothes. currently im playing the game having her thinking shes a lesbian, and throughout her teen years she'll realize shes trans and do a full transition in college
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#7 Old 29th Oct 2013 at 9:15 PM
For boys wanting to become girls there's a load of stuff on Simmergirl. In fact, as far as I can see that's all that Simmergirl does. I've gone there for adult males who weren't really transgender or transvestite, but merely wanted shorter shorts than anyone seems to make for Sim men. The Simmergirl shorts with ordinary male tops look ok at the low resolution I play at, but it would really work better with Simmergirl female-looking tops.

There's also stuff by q3tbo here on MTS. I'm afraid I haven't noticed anything suitable for Female to Male though.
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#8 Old 29th Oct 2013 at 9:22 PM
Quote: Originally posted by pondefloor
I don't think that it'd be unreal for there to be facial hair enabled for originally female sims, but I haven't seen or heard anything about it.


Entirely possible and easy to do. Just change the gender flag to... I think it's 0x03? Makes an item unisex (would have to double-check on a unisex item for the code to be sure) but I tested ages ago if beards and whatnot could be enabled for females and... they can.

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#9 Old 29th Oct 2013 at 11:18 PM
Ah~ I've been waiting for something in the story to tell me a sim could be trans...never been able to find very tasteful MtF clothes though.

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#10 Old 30th Oct 2013 at 1:45 AM
I tried having a MtF transgender sim before. I downloaded some clothes from Simmergirl. It just didn't quite look right for me. So I left him a gay man instead. And eventually deleted the stuff from Simmergirl.
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#11 Old 30th Oct 2013 at 3:19 AM Last edited by gazania : 30th Oct 2013 at 1:29 PM.
Some people prefer Gothplague's androgyny Sims .... I prefer Aquilegia's. It's a slightly modified version. The beauty of this shape is that it affects the top only .... you can get away with using normal separates for the bottoms. That gives you more clothes to mix and match.

(I deleted the link because these Sims are semi-Barbie, and I'm not sure I'm permitted to post it here. Am I?)

Unfortunately, most of the best outfits (IMO) ARE on GOS, but there might be enough on the Net to piece a bit here and there. There are a few here. Admittedly, it's harder to find FtM than MtF.


If I recall, one can also use the Insim to help make the transition complete, as well as Sim PE. (Both probably are doing the same thing.) There used to be a Insim menu item that allowed you to change a female to a male (so you can use male hair styles, clothes, etc.), and vice versa. I think it's still there.

And let's hope GoS comes back up soon. if I recall, I am not permitted to post a Box or Mediafire link containing the downloads I do have.

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#12 Old 30th Oct 2013 at 2:57 PM
I honestly wish there were more tasteful dresses for FTM sims tbh. None of this super short skirt/stiletto/extremely thin bodyshape business. I mean things that actual females could/would/do wear, just modeled on a male body, like skirts and dresses with flats and things like that. There's such a severe lack of that kind of CC and it really disappoints me because I know for sure that none of the trans* OCs I would consider simming would ever wear most of the things that are available.

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#13 Old 30th Oct 2013 at 3:08 PM
Yeah, Simmergirl meshes have bosoms even on teens - and what teen boy can get silicone shots? I need a lot of clothing choices for my transvestite fashionista, and I'm having to be real picky.

This, of course, is the sort of thing that drives one to learn to mesh and recolor.

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#14 Old 30th Oct 2013 at 3:10 PM Last edited by gazania : 30th Oct 2013 at 3:31 PM.
Fully agree with that. Just as hard is simply finding everyday casual outfits that both can wear on the street .... not Gothy (though I like those and have a few), suits, etc .... I mean jeans and close-fitting (but not sexy) shirts. Again, I found a couple on GoS for the Aquilegia body shape, but not many.

This is an example of the type of shirt I wish there was more of in the Sims 2 world:

http://arrestthestars.livejournal.com/16147.html

Simple. Ordinary. Everyday.

EDITED because I stood corrected .... the only dress I have for my androgynous males (AM and TM) is a full-length medieval gown.

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#15 Old 30th Oct 2013 at 3:32 PM
Quote: Originally posted by gazania
Fully agree with that. I've found a couple of outfits, but not many. Just as hard is simply finding everyday casual outfits that both can wear on the street .... not Gothy (though I like those and have a few), suits, etc .... I mean jeans and close-fitting (but not sexy) shirts. Again, I found a couple on GoS for the Aquilegia body shape, but not many.

This is an example of the type of shirt I wish there was more of in the Sims 2 world:

http://arrestthestars.livejournal.com/16147.html

Simple. Ordinary. Everyday.

Exactly. Something like that with a mid-length jean or cotton skirt with some ballerina flats would be a perfect outfit for a FTM trans* sim. I have plenty of gothy sims, but some of my trans* gals aren't gothic lolitas or into that kind of showiness, you know?

@Peni: Augh ikr.

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#16 Old 30th Oct 2013 at 4:19 PM
This is an interesting topic. I really like q3tbo's female clothes for males, but I haven't got any transgender sims as yet. I'm not sure whether I want to have any, because if I did, I would have to download lots of clothes for them, and I'm trying to keep my downloads to a minimum. If I had m2f sims I would end up wanting f2m sims aswell. It would be nice to see pics of people's transgender sims.
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#17 Old 30th Oct 2013 at 5:30 PM
gazania, we really don't have many rules about links. Don't link to porn, pirated stuff, or stuff which is clearly inappropriate for a PG-13 audience... and that's about it. Unless the sims you want to link to are waving their cocks about or something, go for it, or if you're really worried then give the name of the site so people can google it.

Peni, silicon shots are unrealistic, but padded bras aren't too expensive for a teenager who's determined. Ofc, that does require the clothes to have fairly high necklines.

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#18 Old 30th Oct 2013 at 8:16 PM
Quote: Originally posted by Nysha
gazania, we really don't have many rules about links. Don't link to porn, pirated stuff, or stuff which is clearly inappropriate for a PG-13 audience... and that's about it. Unless the sims you want to link to are waving their cocks about or something, go for it, or if you're really worried then give the name of the site so people can google it.

Peni, silicon shots are unrealistic, but padded bras aren't too expensive for a teenager who's determined. Ofc, that does require the clothes to have fairly high necklines.


Knowing the stuff on Simmergirl, maybe like 1% of the stuff there that can pass as padded bras. :P

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#19 Old 31st Oct 2013 at 12:16 AM
Quote: Originally posted by Fivey
Knowing the stuff on Simmergirl, maybe like 1% of the stuff there that can pass as padded bras. :P


Agree with that ... unless those guys used a LOT of padding!

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#20 Old 31st Oct 2013 at 1:21 AM
thanks for all the replies, i have a question though. would it be possible to go in to SimPE and make it so lilith uses male pronouns, but keep the feminine body type? I would like to have it so lilith chooses to be called he and him ect, before she actually transitions. possible?
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#21 Old 31st Oct 2013 at 1:26 AM
There's no separate place to change pronouns. You can easily do it in any storytelling you do, though. The pop-ups can just be rude people who won't accept her gender identification.

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#22 Old 31st Oct 2013 at 1:32 AM
Thats a good way to deal with it lol thank you
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#23 Old 31st Oct 2013 at 3:13 AM
I really didn't like Simmergirl, because the males there didn't look male at all. They looked as if you might as well just have created a female sim. But, I was looking for clothes for a cross dressing sim, not a transgender sim, so I wanted him to still look like a male.

And it is hard to find cross dressing clothes without them being gothy (even harder if you don't want the breasts).

One of my favourite DLs that I stumbled across was here http://sims-islands.but.jp/2008/index2.html under adult male.

It was the red chinese dress for females converted for males. It even has versions with both breasts and no breasts. I use the no breasts version for my cross dressing sim's formal wear.

Edit: I also found this: http://mercury1999.blog37.fc2.com/blog-entry-107.html Took me ages to find a no breasts version.
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#24 Old 2nd Nov 2013 at 1:13 PM
So yeah, there's a way to change a sims gender after creation, yeah?
I wanted to find unisex clothes so this thread is a good one!
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#25 Old 2nd Nov 2013 at 2:11 PM
I have to admit I have never even considered having trans sims in my game. I'm surprised to see it pop up so often here (in threads like what did you do with these sims, etc.). I have straights, gays and bisexuals, but their gender stays the way it is.

I don't intend to be offensive by any means. I find it interesting that something I had never even thought about is done by so man others in their game.
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