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#1 Old 4th Jan 2017 at 6:55 PM
Default Dumbest/Worst Trait In Your Opinion
Some of those traits are just dumb. Either because they make things unnecessarily difficult or just add nothing.
Personally, I think the Hydrophobic trait is the dumbest trait in the game; it does nothing except make your Sim dread taking a shower and then, after taking one, tend to spend a good few minutes crying, like it just assaulted them inappropriately. I never use it for any Sim I create (not even NPC-household Sims for town population) and absolutely dread it being picked randomly for a born Sim.

Though in terms of effect-worst, probably Light Sleeper. Everything wakes them up. I much prefer Heavy Sleeper...
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#2 Old 4th Jan 2017 at 6:56 PM
Light sleeper is nice for storytelling purposes but it's horrid for gameplay. However, in my humble opinion, technophobic is the worst one.
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#3 Old 4th Jan 2017 at 7:25 PM
Quote: Originally posted by CatMuto
Personally, I think the Hydrophobic trait is the dumbest trait in the game; it does nothing except make your Sim dread taking a shower and then, after taking one, tend to spend a good few minutes crying, like it just assaulted them inappropriately. I never use it for any Sim I create (not even NPC-household Sims for town population) and absolutely dread it being picked randomly for a born Sim.

Hands down agree this is the most useless trait. With Light Sleeper you could at least torture a Sim by randomly turning the TV or radio on if you felt like it, but Hydrophobic...I would like to know how EA thought this would be a useful trait

I think the most useless for me would be Can't Stand Art, because I literally can't remember if/when I've ever used it. The negative moodlets it generates are based on the environment scores of the objects in the room, and it's annoying when I have a lot of clutter that doesn't count as "art" (of course, the game can't know that) but the Sim still gets the moodlets :/

As a sidenote, a Technophobic Sim would be great to pair with a Handy one in the Military career; the Technophobe would constantly sabotage electronics and the other Sim's Handiness skill would max out in no time

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#4 Old 4th Jan 2017 at 9:55 PM
Absent minded sims look nice as a concept, but those sims are extremely forgetful. Most of the traits that came with showtime as well... Useless bunch of things. And what does the dardevil serve for? "Extreme" interactions...? Most of these traits are just minor things that are unnecessarily taking up space in a game without mods.
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#5 Old 4th Jan 2017 at 10:47 PM
Never nude. That's pretty useless.

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#6 Old 4th Jan 2017 at 10:50 PM
Never Nude is how you make an emotionless sim.
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#8 Old 4th Jan 2017 at 11:44 PM
Vehicle Enthusiast. It's not even a contest.
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#9 Old 5th Jan 2017 at 12:12 AM
Quote: Originally posted by HarVee
Never Nude ... just the name itself does not even make sense ... everyone has been nude once in their life.


It's one of the many Arrested Development references in the game. There are dozens of them! DOZENS!

But I agree, it is useless. Apparently in the Thai version of TS2, all Sims are never nudes (not sure if that carried over to TS3).

I think a lot of the traits are useless, aside from the aforementioned, Vehicle Enthusiast and Bot Fan have to be the worst. Almost all the phobias are terrible -- at least they could have added better phobias like agoraphobia. Clumsy is also annoying. I generally dislike any trait that doesn't affect the Sim aside from giving them an extra option in the Friendly interaction.

I do really like the Shy trait, though I've never tested whether shy Sims take longer to make friends.
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#10 Old 5th Jan 2017 at 1:22 AM
Many traits are dumb not because of the concept, but because of how they are implemented in game. Examples:
1) Hydrophobic. Hydrophobic people are not afraid to touch water - they are afraid to drown. So, it makes sense that they don't want to swim, but why would they hate hot tubs? Hydrophobic people can even use boats without any fear sometime, while being really afraid to swim.
2) Vehicle Enthusiast. These folks should be able to repair cars themselves if their cars are broken - but cars don't break in the game. They should also have options to upgrade their cars and to learn how to drive easier than other sims. However, you can't add more options to your car in TS3, and every sim know how to drive once they are YA. So, this trait is useless.
3) Never Nude. Really, who takes shower or bath in their swimsuit? If it was called sth different (Modest could be a decent alternative), and if sims with this trait detested being seen nude by others, I would understand - there are people like this. Their strong disapproval of other people's public nudity makes sense, too. But bathing in a swimsuit is a stupid exaggeration.
4) Loser and Unlucky. These two could have been easily merged into one.
5) Avantgarde. This trait makes no sense on its own - it could be a feature of Rebel trait, because it adds too little to the gameplay to waste a trait slot on it.
6) Can't Stand Art. What's the point in including this trait?
7) Dislikes Children. This could have been Childfree trait. and sims with this trait would never want to have children of their own (and suffer from extremely negative moodlets if forced into pregnancy by the player). Sims who are Childfree by choice, but are forced to have children, would also dislike their own kids and even want them to be take by social worker to get rid of the parenting burden. However, IRL childfree people often are neutral about other people's kids, and sometimes can even get along very well with some of them. Only a combination of Childfree trait with Evil or Mean-Spirited should give a sim options for insulting children.
8) Hates the Outdoors. Again, makes no sense for me. There are people who like being outdoors, and people who don't care. Why would anyone have a special hate for outdoor environment?
9) Irresistible. We already have Charismatic, isn't this trait meant to serve the same purpose?
10) Excitable and Easily Impressed. Again, why two traits, if there could be only one to cover the concept behind them?

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#11 Old 5th Jan 2017 at 2:25 AM
Irresistable is in the Romace domain: Charismatic is otherwise.
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#12 Old 5th Jan 2017 at 5:48 AM
I agree about the Hydrophobia trait. I mean the only creatures who are actually afraid of, or have an aversion to water (rather than simply having a fear of drowning) are those suffering from rabies. I've only used it once, and that was for a 'cat girl' sim I created, where it seemed to make some kind of sense. Cats certainly don't like being sprayed with water, or being immersed in it. But my sim could strip wash in the sink with no problems.

The technophobe trait is, I think, one of the worse implemented: why should a sim get a negative moodlet simply because somebody else is watching T.V in the same room? I'm pretty clueless myself when it comes to technology, but I still enjoy watching T.V.

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#13 Old 5th Jan 2017 at 8:58 AM
Quote: Originally posted by SimmerHilda
Many traits are dumb not because of the concept, but because of how they are implemented in game. Examples:

I love your version of Vehicle Enthusiast! If the furniture in game did break/wear down over time, I'd like Handy Sims to be able to fix or repurpose it. It's just creepy and "why??" when Sims have their vehicles in the relationship panel.

Never Nude really is useless because Sims already get embarrassed whenever any Sim but their SO sees them naked.

I would change "Dislikes Children" to give a negative moodlet to the Sim if they themselves, their SO, and any Sim on the same lot, is pregnant.

If anything, Irresistible could be merged with Flirty. Excitable could be merged with Over-Emotional too; as it is, it's OE but without the negative effects.

And I'd repurpose Easily Impressed into making Sims fall for fake gossip, be quicker to believe in supernatural beings, be more predisposed to falling for scams (like fake donations or mooching Sims). On that note, do Supernatural Enthusiast and Supernatural Skeptic do anything?

Quote: Originally posted by Elynda
The technophobe trait is, I think, one of the worse implemented: why should a sim get a negative moodlet simply because somebody else is watching T.V in the same room? I'm pretty clueless myself when it comes to technology, but I still enjoy watching T.V.

I'm starting to think that Technophobic is for old farts who refuse to learn how electronics work. But again, there are plenty of people who are clueless about operating a computer, yet have no problem watching TV. Could be useful for an insane hippie tho.

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#14 Old 5th Jan 2017 at 9:09 AM
I'm surprised to see Bot Fan come up a lot, it actually has uses unlike some other traits.

You get a boost to Bot Building skill, and can enter human Sims in the arena when they wear the robot costume (meaning you don't need a Plumbot). Okay, it's situational, but not completely worthless.
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#15 Old 5th Jan 2017 at 9:26 AM
Clumsy doesn't seem to add anything, the sim just stumbles sometimes.

For annoying, I hate never nude and hydrophobic.

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#16 Old 5th Jan 2017 at 11:10 AM
Quote: Originally posted by mixa97sr
(...) And what does the dardevil serve for? "Extreme" interactions...? (...)
Daredevil may be a "useless" trait in that it doesn't give you any special benefits, but it is one of the few traits that have been given continuous attention by the developers over the course of the whole development cycle. I think that almost every EP has added at least one thing especially for daredevils. Sometimes it is particular interactions and sometimes special animations or behaviours or daredevil specific wishes. Some of these interactions cannot be directed by the user so you will only see them if you leave them to their free will. Some of the daredevil specific things that came with EPs are: DDs can slide down spiral staircases like childish Sims (Gen), DD will sometimes jump onto a seesaw and then slide down one side (Gen), DDs refuse to use an umbrella when it's raining (Seasons), DDs seem to have a better time when taking up a performance profession (SHT), DDs can only choose the "Crazy Cowgirl/boy" option on the mechanical bull (SHT). And while all these things are minor by themselves, seen as a whole the Daredevil trait is pretty fleshed out.

Irresistible, on the other hand, is quite an interesting trait, both in a positive and in a negative sense. I almost always add one Sim with the Irresistible, Evil, No Sense of Humour and Mean Spirited traits as an inactive to my towns. She can wreck the atmosphere on a lot in no time. The Irresistible trait causes all other Sims nearby to drop whatever they were doing and swarm the irresistible Sim and the bad traits guarantee that they'll regret that soon after. Irresistible for an actively played Sim is a nightmare, though. Just as inactives drop everything in order to socialise with that Sim, they will also cause your irresistible Sim to drop any interaction it may have chosen autonomously.

The two traits that I find the most annoying are Diva and Social Butterfly; Diva because of the idles and Social Butterfly because of the overall behaviour that comes with that trait.

But I agree that hydrophobic, never nude and technophobe together with absent-minded are those base game traits that I hardly ever find any use for.
Scholar
#17 Old 5th Jan 2017 at 12:49 PM
Irresistible is a real funny trait.

Can we talk about Dramatic?
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#18 Old 5th Jan 2017 at 12:59 PM
Quote: Originally posted by alljoj
Can we talk about Dramatic?


Sure. I haven't used it much and only recall one recent Sim who had the trait - she didn't really do anything except sometimes stand idle and do a huffy pose. I read that they can faint for effect, but it hasn't happened.
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#19 Old 5th Jan 2017 at 1:37 PM
Vegetarian.

Not in my game, not in my household, not in my ever.

Never nude is an amazing trait and reference.

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#21 Old 5th Jan 2017 at 4:28 PM
Quote: Originally posted by nitromon
bot fan! annoying! i want to delete it!


This, so much. It's okay otherwise but the outfit. The... most... freaking... annoying... outfit. Especially when worn by townie. I just want to nuke it.
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#22 Old 5th Jan 2017 at 11:07 PM
I love Daredevil. Daredevil sims are immune to fire.

Absent-Minded, however... Forgetting what you were doing while in the middle of doing it gets old rather quickly.

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#23 Old 6th Jan 2017 at 12:02 AM
Quote: Originally posted by varpunen
This, so much. It's okay otherwise but the outfit. The... most... freaking... annoying... outfit. Especially when worn by townie. I just want to nuke it.


I wonder if there is a mod to prevent it. I tried having one of my sims date one of the townies. She showed up to the date in that stupid outfit. I had to look away. I just can't.
#24 Old 6th Jan 2017 at 6:02 AM
Insane. What the heck? So you're socially inappropriate...but there's already the Inappropriate trait!

As for Hates Children, there are people who genuinely do. That's a much different thing than simply not wanting kids of your own.
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#25 Old 6th Jan 2017 at 12:38 PM
The most annoying trait is
Athletic - hand's down. Sims constantly want to exercise. And I mean all the time. Even if someone is already watching the tv. If you just leave them idle the first thing that pops up in their mind is to go execise...

Absent-Minded - You kinda have to babysit these type of sims. You can't tell them to do something and expect them to do it on the first try.

I would say most traits are pretty useless when it comes to game play. I don't know about you, but I like to control every aspect of my sims lives, so their traits don't really weigh much. I sometimes delete some of my sims traits and they don't seems to be any different from sims who have traits. Though, some traits like Evil and Childish are pretty fun becouse they unlock some action that sims normally couldn't do. Like Childish sims can play with toys. I love seems my sims play with their kids with the doll house.
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