Please note, I am not asking how to change these wants to make them easier, as I know there is a mod for that. Rather than that, I'm asking to see other people's strategies to achieve these wants.

Ones that especially bug me are to have 20 simultaneous lovers, and to woohoo with 20 different Sims. Unlike many other LTW's, like the career ones, you cannot start working on it until the Sim is YA at least. Even then, I don't even know if I have enough elegible 'partners', and of course, not everyone is compatible with the Sim or actually wants to woohoo with that Sim I struggle to get to 5 or so different Sims for that romance Sim to woohoo with, and the most simultaneous lovers I've had was 3 I think. I'm totally puzzled as this one I just don't know how to do

Another one is the 50 1st dates one. The only way I can imagine this working is using the matchmaker to get random dates. They might be bad, but at least they're dates (to get good ones, that would cost a fortune!). But how to do it without the help of the matchmaker? Surely there must be a way. I mean, even in a large hood like a Megahood, there's no 50 suitable Sims! Let alone if the Sim doesn't want to be bisexual or date elders or anything like that

I guess these could be simplified by using InTeen, but I've had issues with my game from InTeen before so that's not currently an option. I just wonder about how to do it in a non-modded game, is it even possible?

And this is a bit of a WCIF, but hopefully it's not an issue since it's related to the thread. But is there maybe some tool to check LTW progress? For example, in case of woohoo with 20 different Sims, to check how many the Sim has woohooed so far, etc.? I think there was a feature like this built-in in Sims 3 but is there such a thing in Sims 2?

Actually, you can start working on the two Romance milestones as teens, by making friends with future prospects. Anyone they date in high school can be aged up to go to University with them. (If you don't want a bunch of new playables you can change them to dormies.) Teens can also make friends with adults and elders. And any friend - any friend at all - can be turned into a lover with a single romantic interaction. "Lover" means "have red hearts with," not "woohoo partner," so a teen has no technical bar from having simultaneous lovers.

Finding 20 different sims to woohoo with over the course of a YA/Adult/Elder lifespan, with the teen stage to set the groundwork, shouldn't be all that hard; and having them be simultaneous lovers only requires that none of them catch you cheating with the others between the first and last flirts. If you wanted to grind it you could do "20 simultaneous" in an afternoon by inviting 20 friends over sequentially just long enough to make the flirt happen. If all you want is 20 unique woohoos, college can give you a giant leg up. All you have to do is not prioritize grades.

A slightly cheaty way to accomplish the woohoo milestone is to take advantage of the glitch that Public Woohoo and Woohoo are counted separately. So one sim can count for two notches if you bang him in a photobooth and then take him home to finish in bed.

50 1st dates can start on the first day of teen and be fulfilled on the last day of elderdom, if you want quality dates and want to do other things with your life. Or you can ditch the idea that they have to be good dates, and go on two or three a day, if that doesn't bore you to tears. And what do you mean, there's not 50 suitable sims even in a megahood? The dates don't have to be with playables! You can date service sims. You can date dormies, townies, downtownies - anybody with a proper name that the game lets you interact normally with without cheats can be a date.

If I want to check somebody's numbers, I just count purple hearts (or 1st dates) in the memories. If you Clear Trash Memories with the batbox, you'll have fewer to wade through.

I once had a Sim roll an ordinary want (not an LTW) to have 30 simultaneous lovers -- at a time when there were only 29 Sims in the 'hood -- including himself!

When it comes to the 50 dates, that's always struck me as an ideal LTW for a vampire In fact, I'd like to try it out in my NPC-free hood. If you play it with a vampire, you don't need to have that many dates living in the hood at one time, your vampire can cross oceans of time to find all the lovers they need. Maybe that's why the premade vampires are pleasure sims, now that I think about it

Cyjon has a debugger object which will count LTW stats too so you don't have to count.

I think you're setting your standards too high for your sims - they don't have to be that compatible to woohoo, you just make friends and then work up to flirts. Sims have no morals when pushed XD The love tub aspiration reward can help too, even in a vanilla game with no mods making casual woohoo possible or hacked beds etc.

First dates definitely easy too - they don't have to LIKE their date or even be interested in them but someone with a decent amount of relationship can easily be asked on a date. Even if it's over after an hour it still counts. There are definitely 50 sims in a megahood! Jeez, I have 1327 character files in my megahood! Okay some of them are dead :P

I've just run a census: 697 live, adult or older sims in the megahood. So you only have to date 7% of the available sims to achieve this want. I'm sure that more than 7% are the right gender, gender preference and unmarried.

Date and Cheese counter. http://modthesims.info/d/270365 The cheese is for counting grilled cheese sandwiches of grilled cheese sims.

50 dates is easy, I just use the matchmaker to get as many quick dates done as possible per day. usually I let them say "Hi, how are you? Goodbye." If their aspiration drops too much from bad dates I just give them one longer better date before going back to quick ones.

50 Dream I always do with a married couple. Super easy to get a dream date with your spouse.

50 Whoohoos is best done with the photobooth as it allows them to whoo with a lower relationship score than a bed. That plus community lot means only 10 sims. I did complete this for the controllable in an asylum challenge which means he wasn't allowed to go to a community lot due the challenge rules so he had to woo 20, he got it finished 3 days after turning elder. They only need to be friends and while bad chemistry is harder sometimes you have to just push the friendship with water balloons or chess and don't forget elders. They don't have to be in love or attracted to them to whoohoo. They aren't a 'date', just aspiration fodder.

5o simultaneous is a pain in the butt to keep them from getting caught which drops the lovers off. You just have to be careful and hope not to get caught.

Has anybody done the pet best friends one? That's the one I can't see how to accomplish. Can't call up pets, so how do you maintain the relationship?

You can't call them, but you can invite them to parties. And if you make friends with your friends' pets, you can include them in "invite household."

Self gratification totally counts rofl.

20 pet best friends might also be possible by obtaining pets, befriending them and then putting them up for adoption/sell them to townies. I haven't tested it but that would keep the pets immortal. I find the 20 puppies/kittens to adults quite tedious but doable if you keep them on it. Woohoo 20 sims well the last few times I've done that I've had sims start a brothel (and kept out all children, teens, sims of the wrong gender and sims of the wrong gender preference) it only took a few seasons. Otherwise if I have a few compatiable sims with that ltw I have them help each other out.

This has given me an idea for a challenge I'm going to create a single male sim and 32 single female sims (two of each combination of skin and hair colour) and make him woohoo 20 of them, but from their side and always TFB. Any pregnant sims, he has to move in and deal with all of the babies <snicker>.

I think I'm going to leave jealousy on so that it makes the challenge lot more challenging. And add the rule that if he rolls wants to do with sims he's already woohooed, those take precedence over sims he hasn't yet woohooed. So he might end up woohooing one sim more than once. (I would save, lock his want, quit to n'hood and control her to do it).

Once he's achieved his LTW then I'll let the neighbourhood carry on and see if I can populate it just with his offspring, NPCs, aliens, plantsims etc.

I actually find woohooing 20 sims reasonably easy, but then again I have ACR, InTeen and an autonomous swingers bed. The only problem is that they're usually townies, and because my sims 'inherit' their parents aspirations, romance sims tend to give birth to romance sims who give birth to romance sims, who woohoo the same people their parent and grandparent did. Which is hella weird. 20 simultaneous lovers is a lot more difficult, I once used cheats and had a sim have 30 lovers, but without cheats, even the most lusty of romance sims can only manage 4-5 in a lifetime.

I'm pretty bad with best friends too. My poor simmies have never had 10, let alone 20. Their main source of interaction is with their household, which means they usually go a few days without calling anyone, so I constantly get the "You haven't called in a while" or "________ and ________ are no longer best friends" or "__________ is no longer a family friend" messages. Maybe my sims should host more parties / call people over more often... or at least call their parents/siblings/childhood friends once in a while.

I'm pretty sure Mary Ann Hawkins just made 20 best friends while still in her teens! (Fortunately, she's Family so she's not permaplat.) One trick to having lots of best friends is lots of community lot visits for everybody. They'll make their own friends in the backgrounds of other people's community lot visits, and often maintain them, too. Also, outings and parties and circles of friends. Once you get Freetime and have BFF status, it takes a lot longer for friendships to decay, too.

The first time I did the 20 best friends LTW was in my legacy and somehow one of the brothers and the sister both had that same LTW. I wanted to tear my hair out as they were not the same aspiration, but they were however clones. I did it at UNI using a lot of those cool shades and did both of them by senior year. It was rather a grind.

20 woohoos takes some work, but its fun getting there. I regard public and private doublecounting as a feature, not a bug, considering all the drama that come along with the terrain, especially in a small 'hood where everyone knows everybody! So 10 with repeats, and 10 chances of being found out. Not too bad

50 dream dates and 50 first dates also take some more work, but the good news is that you can start those as a teen. Unmodded with default lifespans, you have 42 days to reach that goal before elderhood. Not too hard. My friskier sims average 3 dates daily and spend downtime making phonecalls, stoking prospects.

20 best friends is easy in a mature hood as kids have a lot of time to create friendships; most of the time I never think about it. In a new start up hood, even with premades it is harder as the sims have few friends, and families are not that extensive. Big families tend to be easy wells of friendships. 2nd gen and further generation sims simply tap into existing friendship webs. It's easy street.

As for 20 simultaneous lovers, that's the one which presents the biggest challenge, imo, in the base game. Further, it's an aspiration that never changes (along with 20 BFs). NP, don't sweat it. Your sim will likely hit platinum at.some point along the way and be happy and fulfilled that they tried to do it.

A few things help here:

If you play a hood in rotation, other houses will wind up helping the sim in question along in an organic fashion as they need dates, friends and lovers too! A single play house/sim doesn't have anyone else "working" for them and is indeed much harder and the game play gets very repetitive quickly (with other households in play, you get to enjoy a richer variety of goals, and get to take breaks form the date machines).

Obviously having a family with some money takes away the need to work, allowing more time for playtime.

And you also save a lot of time by going to community lots.

And as a simmer, it really helps keeping some sort of date log, so you can easily keep track of all the bedpost notches and don't have to keep diving into the memory file to do recounts.

That's what I got.

Definitely. I've had sims who've been able to hit perma-plat from 20 Best Friends by the time they grow up from being teens. Having a large enough pool of playables helps a lot, as does FT's BFF option. While I've got a hack in to stop sims needing friends for promotions, I could probably take it out now as my sims accumulate a lot of friends simply by just existing. Doubly-so for in-born sims or those made in CAS as toddlers or children. Meet loads of other playables at school, get wants to make friends with them, grow into teens and start venturing out to community lots on their own, meet new sims, want to be friends with them. Plus, the (un?)lucky ones with larger families usually end up with siblings, nieces/nephews, and cousins as a good starting point for friends, especially with family parties where I throw everyone together and just let them socialise.

I wonder if townies can fulfil LTWs? Because surely with their being around for generations, some of them might easily fill the lovers, woohoos or best friends ones!