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#26 Old 12th Nov 2015 at 4:55 PM
Quote: Originally posted by Viktor86
The Sims 3 Store is still open and all the packs + BG are still buyable via Origin. I would guess that they still make money out of it.


yeah... about the Sims 3 store...

Bought it - everything that isn't junk, that is. All the worlds, all the good collections. I need something new for Sims 3 to buy.
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Theorist
#27 Old 12th Nov 2015 at 5:03 PM
But it's still so fucking expensive for a game not supported anymore and after all that time. I mean, 16 euros for a basic version of some world(+ 100 SP for your account)? Come on.

Oh, and the ways to pay for your stuff there, don't like it. I don't use PayPal and I refuge to get a creditcard.

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#28 Old 12th Nov 2015 at 5:08 PM Last edited by Nemiga : 12th Nov 2015 at 6:09 PM.
What the..
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#29 Old 12th Nov 2015 at 5:38 PM
I could actually imagine a few uses for this. I could temporarily enable all the expansions I've uninstalled like Pets and IP because of the lag they create, and then take them off when I want to play legacy worlds where they would otherwise slow things down too much. But that's not worth using the launcher every time I want to play, so unless this brings some major bug fixes (), I'll pass.
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#30 Old 12th Nov 2015 at 5:57 PM
Perhaps this is an admission that they realise each EP was only good to play as a stand-alone. Strange to have this update, I wonder if there is something else to follow? Maybe this update will make Origin compulsory to play.

Quote: Originally posted by Don_Babilon
This feature will only be useful for new games. If you try to load an existing save with now some EPs disabled you will likely break that game. Without much chance to fix it again afterwards. If at all.

From the FAQ, that looks to be changing:


http://help.ea.com/en/article/new-l...for-the-sims-3/
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#31 Old 12th Nov 2015 at 6:07 PM
Quote: Originally posted by simsample


From the FAQ, that looks to be changing:


http://help.ea.com/en/article/new-l...for-the-sims-3/

That's how it's always been, actually. It's not necessarily game-breaking though. I had two legacy games, one in Twinbrook and one in Lucky Palms, that had Pets before I uninstalled it. The TB had been unstable, crashing after a few hours, for a long time, and it didn't really get much better after Pets was gone. The Lucky Palms one is still going strong six generations after I yanked out that expansion. YMMV.
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#32 Old 12th Nov 2015 at 6:32 PM
Quote: Originally posted by Spamaccount
That's how it's always been, actually.

Ooh, really? I didn't know that! But I never played Sims 3 through Origin, though. Thanks for the info!
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#33 Old 12th Nov 2015 at 6:34 PM
Quote: Originally posted by simsample
From the FAQ, that looks to be changing:


http://help.ea.com/en/article/new-l...for-the-sims-3/
Yes, but what happens if your Sims have an extensive travel history in WA destinations, what happens if they've got University degrees or additional traits through degrees and social group influence, what happens if they maxed a skill that is tied to an EP, what if they are an occult that is exclusive to an EP. This FAQ doesn't mention any of that only missing objects issues.
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#34 Old 12th Nov 2015 at 6:41 PM
Don't worry Don_Babilon. EA have it covered. After all, have you ever known them to mess anything up with a patch?
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#35 Old 12th Nov 2015 at 9:55 PM
Crap. It is never good news for me when they "upgrade" anything related to the launcher.
I still play using disks and am on a Mac so I hope nothing will break for me. As it is, when I re-installed Sims 3 recently (disks) something farked up in that blasted launcher and now every time I want to play Sims 3 I have to load my game twice. Dumbass launcher crashes the first time always, (disk authentication error) then works with no problem the second time I start.

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#36 Old 12th Nov 2015 at 10:12 PM
Quote: Originally posted by blupest
Crap. It is never good news for me when they "upgrade" anything related to the launcher.
I still play using disks and am on a Mac so I hope nothing will break for me.

Well if one is using a Mac, then one need not worry. This update is currently known only for Windows PC users. As usual, the update doesn't really specify anything regarding Linux.

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#37 Old 12th Nov 2015 at 11:51 PM
Quote: Originally posted by simsample

From the FAQ, that looks to be changing:
Quote:
Specifically, if in The Sims 3 Expansion and Stuff Pack Manager you deselect packs that you have been playing with and load a game save that uses those packs, the game will replace the unloaded content with default items or remove them altogether.


http://help.ea.com/en/article/new-l...for-the-sims-3/


That's the same sort of behavior that happens if you install say a lot and you don't have all the packs or content available. It can be quite entertaining how those default items are selected. Once I installed a boutique, very nicely built, but didn't have all the deco clothing for the shelves, so the game substituted hundreds of rolls of toilet paper for that instead. I was tempted to simply rename the shop "The Bottoms Up". Another time, on a house lot which I didn't have the correct outdoor fountain for, the game cleverly placed a toilet there instead.

What is it with EA and bathroom humor, anyway?

And yeah, I appreciate the gesture, but I'll pass on this "update" and use the Any Pack mod that's already out there and debugged for a few years now. Betcha they borrowed code from the mod to make this, too.
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#38 Old 13th Nov 2015 at 1:44 AM
This is crinrict's first report on the official forum:
Quote: Originally posted by crinrict
Wanna post my results for tonight. I shall continue tomorrow

1. Update does not seem to be mandatory, doesn't matter which version you have
2. If you have the old disc version, you can continue as is. No Origin installation necessary and no update. No new features either. You can still manually patch to 1.67 but you might keep a backup of the patch somewhere safe
3. If you have the download version (more self-testing on this tomorrow) I assume you can also continue unpatched BUT if you ever need to reinstall, you will get version 1.69.
4. If you decide to update, there's no more bypassing Origin or the launcher. I'm assuming EIG won't work (unless that's what they are patching)
5. If you decide to update, no more disc is necessary.
6. They added the feature to change the language through Origin, just as Sims 4 has.
7. The EP downloads still install Securom to your computer
8. Mods: I'm guessing that only core mods will throw wrong version number errors. I do not believe anything was changed game-wise.

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#39 Old 13th Nov 2015 at 2:56 AM
One of the upgrades in the past "fixed" where you can bypass the launcher by starting TS3W.exe directly; which saved considerable loading time.

That was underhanded, IMHO. No, I don't want to see their incessant advertising for their SIms 4 game. The townies are lame and the world is puny and sucks.
Instructor
#40 Old 13th Nov 2015 at 3:14 AM
Seems like the new patch is causing issues already. http://forums.thesims.com/en_US/dis...e-sims-3#latest A Guru also confirmed CAW will no longer be compatible with the update today. http://forums.thesims.com/en_US/dis...omment_14286668

Make sure to backup your saves if you decide to update. Turning on and off packs has been known to cause issues and corrupt save files in the past.
Forum Resident
#41 Old 13th Nov 2015 at 4:20 AM
If you can avoid it, do not install the update. my game, which took me a long time to perfect, is now un-playable. I think they said on the sims.com forums that NRAAS mods are incompatible with the new launcher. I am trying to re-download and weed through everything, yet again, until I can get a playable version of the game. My Sims4 game is also unplayable after the new update. I am so tired of this shizzzzzz.
Forum Resident
#42 Old 13th Nov 2015 at 4:21 AM
Basically, I get to the point where I have selected a world to play, it is 99% loaded and then, game gone.
Theorist
#43 Old 13th Nov 2015 at 4:50 AM
Quote: Originally posted by chicvibe
Basically, I get to the point where I have selected a world to play, it is 99% loaded and then, game gone.


Chicvibe, do you use any mods? Core mods especially may be affected. You might try removing your mods folder if you use them (or at least remove any game mods) and see if your game will load then?

Most NRASS mods are not Core mods and shouldn't be affected, but Error Trap or any other mod you use that changes the Core of the game could need updating. Also, how are you trying to start the game? Do you use the launcher? Do you have the option to remove EP's? Are all your EP's selected to run when you try to open your saved game?

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#44 Old 13th Nov 2015 at 4:53 AM
Chicvibes, thank you for being a sacrificial lamb

Let us know if it's a mod issue or an EA issue.
Forum Resident
#45 Old 13th Nov 2015 at 5:31 AM
Default the story so far....
Quote: Originally posted by jje1000
Chicvibes, thank you for being a sacrificial lamb

Let us know if it's a mod issue or an EA issue.


Welllllll. I have gone through my mods folder (just the package files) and so far, so good as far as loading and getting me to a world, but, with only a GB of package files (no sliders, just hair, buy and build objects, I have a terrible lag - where my previous game had about 13 Gb with sims3packs and package files and worked pretty well. NRAAS does not work. (sad face) I do not have any sims3pack files, which includes my worlds and sims store content installed, so it may be a sims3pack issue. Which is craptastic, because I spent a loooooong time weeding out corrupt content using Delphy's Dashboard (bless you!) and the Sims3pack Clean Installer (I bow down before you, oh creator of good stuff) to get my game perfect before.

If you like having NRAAS, JUST SAY NO TO THE UPDATE. I am off to cry in the corner. Sims 4 borked, Sims 3 borked, running sims 2 to see if that is working after I got it perfect - I need a stress reliever to relieve me from the stress of fixing my stress relievers.
Forum Resident
#46 Old 13th Nov 2015 at 5:32 AM
Ugh! I wonder if that's why suddenly my game isn't working anymore. I bet I updated without realizing it. I wonder if I can undo it. I recently reinstalled, and updated everything without thinking twice.
Forum Resident
#47 Old 13th Nov 2015 at 5:44 AM
Quote: Originally posted by tangie0906
Chicvibe, do you use any mods? Core mods especially may be affected. You might try removing your mods folder if you use them (or at least remove any game mods) and see if your game will load then?

Most NRASS mods are not Core mods and shouldn't be affected, but Error Trap or any other mod you use that changes the Core of the game could need updating. Also, how are you trying to start the game? Do you use the launcher? Do you have the option to remove EP's? Are all your EP's selected to run when you try to open your saved game?


Yes, I use mods - I do have all the ep's and I basically think this update sucks. My game was perfect with no crashing, no issues with saves or error 12's, and I played all the ep's and stuff packs. I removed all the folders before the update, because I had read about the update the night before and was prepared, so that at least on MY end, I didn't screw the game up. I removed Saves, savedsims, installed worlds, library, mods, custom music, but not my dccache or dcbackup folder or download folder (which only had the dynamic challenges in it). Then, after the update, I put my folders back in, cleared my cache files, and all was well until I got to the last squeensy bit of the world screen. I have my current game, as well as every bit of downloaded content, zipped and unzipped backed up, so at least I don't have to go searching for everything. I had spent a lot of time to get my game perfect, weeding out sims3packs my launcher didn't like, cleaning every sim I downloaded of corrupt content, and eliminating crap from houses I didn't want. I merged package files and carefully checked for conflicts and duplicates. This is incredibly frustrating.
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#48 Old 13th Nov 2015 at 6:07 AM
Default the update seems to be permanent
Quote: Originally posted by jmtmom
Ugh! I wonder if that's why suddenly my game isn't working anymore. I bet I updated without realizing it. I wonder if I can undo it. I recently reinstalled, and updated everything without thinking twice.


Crinrict is going to post some updates, but she noted on thesims.com forum that you don't seem to be able to rollback to a previous version.
Theorist
#49 Old 13th Nov 2015 at 6:09 AM Last edited by tangie0906 : 13th Nov 2015 at 6:19 AM.
Yes it certainly is!

What I meant about the EPs: this update installs a tool that allows you to check off the packs you want to run. I assume you check these off before you try to start the game? (I didn't update so not sure how it works.) Is this a brand new game or a previously played game? I'm wondering whether all your packs are selected in this new tool before you start your game. If you try to open a game that need packs that aren't installed, it often results in getting almost to the end of the load up then stopping. Removing core mods can sometimes do this too. But if this is happening on a brand new save, then I'm not sure what to tell you. You could try renaming your TS3 folder and starting up the game without all those folders you copied and see if it works. Then add one folder at a time until you find out which folder is causing issues. That should at least narrow it down. (If you add lots worlds etc. back you will also have to copy the DCCache folder and put that in, too.)

I'm so sorry, this is why I choose not to update. I was afraid it would just mess up my game. Do you have the original disk version of the base game or do you use a version that was already tied to Origin? If it's the disk version, you should be able to uninstall the BG, reinstall from your disk, and manually patch the game to 1.67. But I'm watching crinrict's experiments too, so I guess we'll see.

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Lab Assistant
#50 Old 13th Nov 2015 at 7:28 AM
Quote: Originally posted by chicvibe
Crinrict is going to post some updates, but she noted on thesims.com forum that you don't seem to be able to rollback to a previous version.

There is a way to "roll back" to 1.67, but only for those who have the base game in disc version and may install from that (meaning the disc is not corrupted way too much). Unfortunately, it needs you to uninstall all your EPs, SPs and base game. Important note: some EPs and SPs will launch launcher through uninstall process and that will also launch Origin and uninstalling of such EPs and SPs will not finish, until you first close the launcher and then fully close Origin (through right click on the system tray Origin icon and choose End). This itself is very annoying, especially if you have more such EPs and SPs installed. Once all of this is done, you may install the base game from disc. This is important, so I repeat, install the base game from disc. Once done, update the game through launcher, which will offer you version 1.67. Do not update through Origin. Once you have base game updated to version 1.67, install your EPs and SPs. With them, it doesn't matter if you will install through Origin or disc, they will still stay in version 1.67, unless you will initiate the Origin update, which we don't want, of course. Voilà, you have your game in 1.67 again.
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