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sHoNi's Vampire Overhaul - [Island Paradise Update! Please redownload! New functionalities added!]

by shoni89P Posted 21st Nov 2010 at 3:53 AM - Updated 25th Jun 2013 at 2:30 PM by shoni89P : Update for 1.55 & Island Paradise EP + added new functionalities
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Message from the author:
Thanks for your constant feedback, care, your patience and support even in my absence. I added a new Troubleshooting/FAQ section for those of you having issues. Please refer to it prior contacting me.

sHoNi



THIS MOD REQUIRES LATE NIGHT AND/OR SUPERNATURAL EP
This is an Overhaul of the Vampires in TS3. It contains several features edited by ME, all merged to a single file. There are other vampires mods that edit just a single thing here on mts, so if you just want those single edits do not use this mod. Remember this mods requires you to play with a new Vampire! Already existing Vampires won't fully work with my mod, so if you already have some (without my mod installed before) then cure them and re-transform them so my mod will fully kick-in in your game.



UPDATE LIST - HERE WILL BE EXPLAINED DETAILED INFO ON NEW UPDATES OF THIS MOD:


v1.0
- First release: Vampire Overhaul, single package
v1.1
- Full Overhaul updated
- Split versions added
- Missing "No V when sleeping" issue fixed
- "Alternative Bite" and "Always Neck Bite" added
v1.2
- Neck/Wrist Bite issue fixed
- Added sunlight immunity if Thirst bar is more than 2/3 full (>35)
- Added compatibility for "No CAS Stagger" mod
v1.25
- Another Hotfix for "Neck Bite" issue for "Bite" and "FULL" versions. Hopefully this will fix it for real.
v2.0
- General hotfix and update for Generations EP
v2.1
- Update for Pets and Patch 1.29
v2.1a
- Hotfix for "FULL" Version
v2.2
- Update for Showtime and Patch 1.32
- Small hotfix for bite neck rules
- Removed increased "Heating up" edit due to excessive difficulty
v2.2a
- Potential hotfix for "Immortality" issue reported from some users
v2.3
- Update for Supernatural and Patch 1.38
- Added more chance for success for the new vampiric hypnosis
v2.5
- Added extra "No Sparkles" features to the "FULL" and "Buffs" versions
- Fairy blood gives +100 mood boost for 6 hours
v2.6
- Updated for Seasons and Patch 1.42 & 1.47
v2.6a
- Hotfix for sparkles still appearing
v2.7
- Updated for University Life and Patch 1.50
v2.8
- Updated for Island Paradise and Patch 1.55
v2.8a
- Added new features when diving/swimming

Here's what this mod changes/edits (FULL Version):

No neck tattoo/bite sign EVER.
No "V" when a Vampire sleeps on a regular bed.
During Bar Brawls, Vampires are much more advantaged than other Sims.
Vampires can bite everyone whose LTR is >=0 (you cannot bite enemies and such) WITHOUT asking.
Vampire bite animation is now slightly different than default:
- always at wrist of non-lovers
- always neck bite if the victim is potentially attracted by the vampire (you will notice this if you perform ANY flirt interaction on the victim and the interaction gets accepted -- it is more likely to happen if the victim is single, has a good mood or has traits like "Flirty" or "Hopeless Romantic". It can happen even if LTR is 0 -- be careful not to have got some aspiration rewards like "Seduction Master" or such, because the neck bite is a romantic interaction, and if you DO got this AR, any victim will accept your neck bite):
It bothers me that I seduce my victim and then I bite on the wrist just because I didn't confess my love first/haven't kissed the victim before.
Every NPC Vampire has now only 2 Plasma Fruits in his/her inventory: that encourages biting other Sims rather than eating just fruits.
"Make Sim think of Me" power now grants 20 LTR bonus rather than 10.
Thirst decay is MUCH slower now. It requires a few days to become empty. If you also buy the "Hardly Hungry" aspiration reward, your vampire will only need to feed once every pope's death.
More than that, if your Vampire's thirst bar is at least by 2/3 full, he/she will be able to walk under the sunlight without negative moodlets/being harmed. Thirsty vampires are weakened and suffer when under the sun.
NPC Vampires (and your own vampires too if free will is activated) can now use their powers (read mind and make sim think of me) at their will. They will especially use them whenever their fun or social need is low.
Victims cannot offer their plasma again within 2 days rather than 1.
Plasma Juice fulfills now much less the thirst motive (it's a snack after all and FREE!) so hunting (or planting) is encouraged.
Vampires are now IMMORTAL as for their age (it says 0). As soon as they reach the young adult stage they won't age any further. Make them age them with a birthday cake if you must.
The "Too much Sun" negative moodlet now lasts only one day but provides a -100 mood value and a quicker thirst decay for that day.
The "Sanguine Snack" moodlet is now enhanced and blocks the thirst bar for 36 hours.
Vampire Altar now replenishes Vampires Energy bar slightly slower but, in return, it totally blocks all other motives (except from Thirst) I do not like other motives being raised by just sleeping so I just blocked them, à la Nightlife Coffins. Hypnotic Gaze has been edited so that our vamps have more less chance to fail. Drinking from a fairy, provides now a +100 boost moodlet that lasts for 6 hours. Optional no sparkling vampires ever! Don't like your vampires have to shine in exchange for sun protection? They won't shine once again with this feature, not with the potion nor with the aspiration reward (pretty useless if you use this overhaul). The potion still grants sun protection, you just don't see the "Sparkly" moodlet AND you don't sparkle.

NEW: Vampires do not need to breathe underwater now (they're dead!), do not need to wait for their body to stabilize to dive again (they're still dead!), do not drown when swimming/diving (they're already DEAD!) and they won't freeze while swimming in icy water! For all those new features to show up, you will need either the Full version or both the Buffs and Thirst packages.

NOTE: In order to remove the neck tattoo/sign and the sleeping "V"s with my mod, you have to empty your cachefiles from the documents folder (like when you install a new skin).

THIS IS NOT A CORE MOD

Instructions for Split Versions
Due to popular request, I have split my mod into several small packages but still mantained the FULL version containing all of them for those who want. Please, be careful NOT to use the split versions along with the FULL version. You decide. Here's an explanation of the various versions:

- sHoNi's_Vampire_Overhaul_Altar: it changes just the Altar, so that it freezes other motives when sleeping apart from thirst.
- sHoNi's_Vampire_Overhaul_Bite: it contains just the bite changes like I explained earlier in the post, same tuning as FULL version.
- sHoNi's_Vampire_Overhaul_Bite_Always_Neck: same as "Bite" version, just always at the neck, no matter what.
- sHoNi's_Vampire_Overhaul_Buffs: contains just the moodlet/buffs changes, like (but not only) sanguine snack and too much sun edits.
- sHoNi's_Vampire_Overhaul_Buffs_No_Sparkle: same as "Buffs", just with the new "No Sparkle" feature.
- sHoNi's_Vampire_Overhaul_FULL: Full updated version. Do not use it with other vampire mods.
- sHoNi's_Vampire_Overhaul_FULL_No_Sparkle: Full updated version, with the new "No Sparkle" feature. Do not use with other vampire mods.
- sHoNi's_Vampire_Overhaul_Immortality: contains only the Immortality for Vampires.
- sHoNi's_Vampire_Overhaul_Minor_Things: here are only some minor things, like more chance to win a brawl for vamps, less fruits for NPC inventories and less thirst gain from drinking the plasma juice.
- sHoNi's_Vampire_Overhaul_No_Tattoo: No neck tattoo/sign on Vamps. Must delete your cache first in order to work.
- sHoNi's_Vampire_Overhaul_No_V: No "V" when sleeping on a regular bed for Vamps.
- sHoNi's_Vampire_Overhaul_NPC_Powers: NPC Vampires can use their mental powers at will, especially if fun or social need is low.
- sHoNi's_Vampire_Overhaul_Thirst: Much slower decay for thirst motive (2-3 days to become empty) and even slower if "Hardly Hungry" aspiration reward is bought. Vamps can walk under the sun freely if thirst bar is at least by 2/3 full.
- sHoNi's_Vampire_Overhaul_Immortality_NoCASAgeStagger: Immortality with Compatible version for No Cas Age Stagger mod. Do not use this in conjuction with FULL mod or "Immortality" version (it alredy contains this feature).


Compatibility:
This mod won't be compatible with other vampire mods (use those mods or just this one -- check with the Dashboard Tool if there are conflicts), mods that alter moodlet buffs, motive decay or socializing tuning. As always, if you're not sure use Delphy's Dashboard Tool to check for incompatibilities. If you find conflicts with the FULL version, use the split versions or make a kind request for a compatible version.

This mod is 100% compatible with my Mummy Overhaul

Troubleshooting / FAQ
[Q] I installed your mod but some/all functionalities do not work. What am I doing wrong?
[A] My mod apparently only fully works on new vampires. That means if you install my mod and you already play as a vampire, it could not work as intended. You may see some of the new functions added by this mod but it is recommended that you cure your already existing vampires and re-transform them (quickly done with Nraas Master Controller).

[Q] I installed the "No Sparkle" version but my vamps still sparkle, how do I fix it?
[A] Empty your cache files. If the issue persists, try to cure from Vampirism and re-transform back, as I suggested before.

[Q] I am having issues with the "Bite" interactions. I don't think it works as it should, how can I proceed?
[A] If you use the "Always neck" option, then it should always work as intended. If it doesn't, and you do not have mod incompatibilities with my mod, then message me and I will see what I can do. If you use the standard version, keep in mind that, in order to achieve a neck bite from a victim, she/he must be attracted to your sim, chemically speaking. You have to seduce her/him first and while being in that "flirty" moment (when two sims are romantically staring at each other) you can try to bite. It won't work if you cancel the interaction or if your flirt gets refused. Keep also in mind of minor random factors like mood/moodlet drops etc. It works best on flirty/outgoing sims.

[Q] I tried everything you suggested but without success. Can you help me?
[A] 90% of the cases, you either haven't cleared your cache, played with a new vampire or have a mod conflict (use Delphy's Dashboard to find it out). Only if you tried everything I suggested, without success, then feel free to contact me.

Where to install:
Simply drop the package(s) to the usual location: "My Documents/Electronic Arts/The Sims 3/Mods/Packages" and delete scriptcache.package

Credit: S3PE Tool, my brother, my partner & CriCri for testing and for being one of the most polite person I ever got to know in my whole life.

Feel free to PM me for any issues =)

sHoNi

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Instructor
THANKS POST
#76 Old 24th Nov 2010 at 10:42 AM
Nicht schlecht, also ein kleines Sprach Multitalent! Finde ich gut, so kann man sich mit mehreren Leuten aus anderen Ländern gut verständigen!

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Hm but if its a animation, I guess there must be a file for it right? But if so. It seems EA didnt put it into the gameplay.package. It must be on another place. I must find out where. Or maybe the name has nothing to do with run, walk or speed. But when I search for vampire only, I cant find the vampiric run neither. So I think EA put it on a totally different name. I guess the blur effect is an animation and the run style is the one from adults! If not why EA sayed the vampires can run really fast? I mean to run actually fast or let it look like they would is a big difference :-(
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#77 Old 24th Nov 2010 at 11:01 AM Last edited by shoni89P : 24th Nov 2010 at 11:03 AM. Reason: Grammar mistake
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tanja1986
Nicht schlecht, also ein kleines Sprach Multitalent! Finde ich gut, so kann man sich mit mehreren Leuten aus anderen Ländern gut verständigen!

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Hm but if its a animation, I guess there must be a file for it right? But if so. It seems EA didnt put it into the gameplay.package. It must be on another place. I must find out where. Or maybe the name has nothing to do with run, walk or speed. But when I search for vampire only, I cant find the vampiric run neither. So I think EA put it on a totally different name. I guess the blur effect is an animation and the run style is the one from adults! If not why EA sayed the vampires can run really fast? I mean to run actually fast or let it look like they would is a big difference :-(

eheh stimmt, bin nicht klein aber :P

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Hm I must say you're wrong with your last sentence Tanja
two days ago, I made up a "Race" xD between a Vampire, a normal sim, a normal sim with athletic maxed out and a simbot xD
the lot was 64x64 and I made them run from one point to the opposite on a painted race lane (1x64). Guess which one was the winner? the vampire.
the vampire arrived 5 seconds before everyone else. You may not notice the vampire speed because he accelerates the more he runs. every second a vampire runs, it gets more faster.
Pretty disappointed that the simbot arrived LAST! I thought those jets under their feet would have made them superfast, but... simbots have a good acceleration start, but then veeery slow indeed. the athletic guy arrived second (+5sec from the vamp) and the normal sim 3rd (about 7-8 secs from the vamp). simbot after 10 secs xD lol
I still think vampires should've run even faster, like speed 15

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Instructor
THANKS POST
#78 Old 24th Nov 2010 at 11:08 AM
okay war auch nur ein Wortspiel *gg* ich bin auch nicht unbedingt klein denke ich mal XD

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Ahh but that would mean there must be differences in the running styles, not only animations. Because the animation effect in this whole thing would be the blur of the vampiric run style! The running itself must be set to the setting it is now! Now we need only the file where every single sim, Occult or whatever is inside with a special setting of how fast they can run! Well I never had a simbot yet, I never had a sim with a high enough level to build one. I think for my next sim I will try it. I would love to see the bots in live action :D
Lab Assistant
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#79 Old 24th Nov 2010 at 11:16 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tanja1986
okay war auch nur ein Wortspiel *gg* ich bin auch nicht unbedingt klein denke ich mal XD

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Ahh but that would mean there must be differences in the running styles, not only animations. Because the animation effect in this whole thing would be the blur of the vampiric run style! The running itself must be set to the setting it is now! Now we need only the file where every single sim, Occult or whatever is inside with a special setting of how fast they can run! Well I never had a simbot yet, I never had a sim with a high enough level to build one. I think for my next sim I will try it. I would love to see the bots in live action :D

I totally agree with you. Well you can buy a simbot with the aspiration reward thing (40000 points as far as I remember) or create one instantly using NRAAS/Twallan's Debug Enabler.
Anyway, I think all this speed values are located deep inside the main dlls and such I have to learn how to Core Mod.

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THANKS POST
#80 Old 24th Nov 2010 at 12:13 PM
I found something in the JazzData.package. Its in the locomotion file

<Style name="VampireRun">
<Variant age="adult" gender="male" start="adult_turn_and_run" cycle="adult_male_run_fast" stop="adult_turn_and_stop_from_run" emergency_stop="a_EmergencyStopRun_0" turn="adult_turn_in_place" />
<Effect name="ep3VampireRun" slot="FXJoint_Root" />
</Style>

I think thats a animation, now we only need to find the modifying file for it.
Lab Assistant
Original Poster
#81 Old 24th Nov 2010 at 12:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tanja1986
I found something in the JazzData.package. Its in the locomotion file

<Style name="VampireRun">
<Variant age="adult" gender="male" start="adult_turn_and_run" cycle="adult_male_run_fast" stop="adult_turn_and_stop_from_run" emergency_stop="a_EmergencyStopRun_0" turn="adult_turn_in_place" />
<Effect name="ep3VampireRun" slot="FXJoint_Root" />
</Style>

I think thats a animation, now we only need to find the modifying file for it.

Sorry to say this Tanja, but unfortunately that Locomotion file is useless to us (I have been looking in it already some days ago). The only purpose of that file is to swap walking styles between ages/occult editing the right string, but no more =(

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THANKS POST
#82 Old 24th Nov 2010 at 12:26 PM
Hm but what say the line: Effect Name: "ep3VampireRun" ? Doesnt that mean that there must be somewhere a file where we could change the vampirerun thing? EP3vampireRun slot FXJoint_Root. I guess there must be a file and inside it there must be something that declares this walking styles. Hm I wish I would know which files can be edited for core mods, because I think it will be a core mod . also to push the vampires to drink from sims and turn them autonomous will be core modding I guess. :-(
Lab Assistant
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#83 Old 24th Nov 2010 at 12:28 PM
yes, probably. i'm reading THIS PAGE now.
have to go now, will be back tomorrow morning (hopefully) to answer comments =)
happy biting

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THANKS POST
#84 Old 24th Nov 2010 at 4:07 PM
So far so good, enjoyed all the changes in full package and keen to try the update.
Also running the other Autonomous vampire mod, do you recommend mixing the two (Supposed 'overhaul compatible' version?)

Would love all vamps to be more autonomous in turning and drinking also, like the mod that had been in testing until yesterday by bluegenjutsu at Crazytown , in that mod I saw multiple times Vampires autonomously offering to turn sims, as well as autonomous sims asking to be turned (And not so often as to be annoying) but there was a problem with the turning animation not showing (Would appear they had been declined, three days later the person would turn despite decline animation in Autonomous situations).

So here's hoping you can crack the code to give them some free will to change and eat from the sims around them a little more.
Test Subject
#85 Old 24th Nov 2010 at 6:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by shoni89P
Hi =)
Your issue is probably "Locomotion.XML" related. Do you use any mod that alter walkstyles (like my "Mummies and Simbots walk normally")? If you do, re-download them as you're probably using an outdated version. If you don't, well, my Overhaul does NOT alter any Locomotion strings, so your problem is not related to my mod.
Greetings


that actually was it. thanks. and i knew your mod didn't cause it i just needed help narrowing down the cause
Test Subject
#86 Old 25th Nov 2010 at 3:20 AM
I just tried to install it. How can I tell whether it worked or not?
Lab Assistant
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#87 Old 25th Nov 2010 at 10:46 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ushneera
So far so good, enjoyed all the changes in full package and keen to try the update.
Also running the other Autonomous vampire mod, do you recommend mixing the two (Supposed 'overhaul compatible' version?)

Would love all vamps to be more autonomous in turning and drinking also, like the mod that had been in testing until yesterday by bluegenjutsu at Crazytown , in that mod I saw multiple times Vampires autonomously offering to turn sims, as well as autonomous sims asking to be turned (And not so often as to be annoying) but there was a problem with the turning animation not showing (Would appear they had been declined, three days later the person would turn despite decline animation in Autonomous situations).

So here's hoping you can crack the code to give them some free will to change and eat from the sims around them a little more.

Hi =)
Yeah, I am actually testing some CORE mod editing and as for now I tried succesfully to do this things: vamps burst into flames under the sun (but do not die, must find how to do this properly), victims pass out right after being bitten (success!), for the walkstyle I'm afraid it's not even a core mod thing...merely an animation =( I won't post the core mod anyway, not now. I must ensure no bugs are found and that the mod is 100% stable.

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#88 Old 25th Nov 2010 at 10:46 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by uglydemon
that actually was it. thanks. and i knew your mod didn't cause it i just needed help narrowing down the cause

You're welcome

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#89 Old 25th Nov 2010 at 10:47 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Faktririjekt
I just tried to install it. How can I tell whether it worked or not?

Well, if you see the difference (read the changes in the main post) then it worked =) otherwise, post here your issues. =)

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THANKS POST
#90 Old 25th Nov 2010 at 11:10 AM
Hey there
Shoni, do you recommend running both your FullOverhaul AND PCexperts 'AutonomousVampiresOverhaul Compatible' together?

Will these two mods overlap in a good way, or perhaps a bad way?
I ask you because I can see, in the comments of the other mod, that you have taken some time to read through the details in PCexperts vampire Mod. You say there that it does not do exactly what PCexpert advertised, but does it do anything that yours does not? If so are these features you would add in upcoming versions.

It's a little confusing, because there is the Overhaul compatible version of other mod, suggests you'd worked together when that's clearly not the case.

Perhaps, Shoni, you could provide some details here or there as to exactly what that other mod does differently to yours, if anything.
Lab Assistant
#91 Old 25th Nov 2010 at 11:11 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by shoni89P
Hi =)
victims pass out right after being bitten (success!),100% stable.


That's Cool!
Test Subject
#92 Old 25th Nov 2010 at 5:43 PM
Just thought I'd let you know that it conflicts with Discover Traits - Reenabled in Baxim's Extended Game Core Mod as well as Richdre (Crazytown) - Slower Motive Decay ... ultimately removing interactions between household family members. Of course, if someone removes Discover Traits and Slower Motive Decay, it works fine with the rest of the set up I just thought I'd report for you and let you know: this is a fantastic idea and a very brilliant mod.

Ángel Quebrado

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does not stop being an angel merely because they
fall from grace; their wings are not so easily taken
Test Subject
#93 Old 25th Nov 2010 at 11:25 PM
yeah this is what is the explanation they gave

Quote:
Shoni's Vampire Overhaul conflicts with Discover Traits. Both contain SocializingTuning.xml. You have four options now: Don't use DiscoverTraits, delete the SocializingTuning of the Vampire Overhaul, merge the two modifications or beg Shoni for rebuilding this part of his/her mod based on the EGC SocializingTuning. One site note: using the EGC SocializingTuning without the EGC Engine does not alter the gameplay in any way, neither good nor bad. This means a modified SocializingTuning based on the EGC one is compatible to both EGC and the EAxian game core.


too bad I was looking forward to using this mod
Test Subject
THANKS POST
#94 Old 26th Nov 2010 at 2:41 AM
This is awesome it really makes the vampire more fun to play. though, i wish they would age until old before becoming immortal. Evil vampires should not have to eat cake. But really fantastic job on this. Especially the NPC autonomy.
Test Subject
#95 Old 26th Nov 2010 at 3:40 AM
Love the mod, lots of great things in it. I downloaded them last night but seem to have a problem. I got the shoni's_vampire_overhaul_bite file, but both male and female sims are biting -everyone- on the neck, and not on the wrist of the same gender.
Lab Assistant
#96 Old 26th Nov 2010 at 9:13 AM
Bite is for bitting eveyone on the neck.
Shoni made three versions.
You´ll have to read the overview and choose the one version you want.
Test Subject
#97 Old 26th Nov 2010 at 11:25 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aliera
Bite is for bitting eveyone on the neck.
Shoni made three versions.
You´ll have to read the overview and choose the one version you want.


nu uh

this is what is written:

Quote:
Vampire bite animation is now slightly different than default:
- always at wrist of non-lovers but same gender Sims
- always neck bite for different gender sims
- always neck bite for FLIRTING WITH A SIM BEFORE THE BITE: it bothers me that I seduce my victim and then I bite on the wrist just because I didn't confess my love first/haven't kissed the victim before; now if the atmosphere is "romantic" (such as flirting) with the victim (even on low LTR) if the flirt it's accepted the bite will be on the neck AS LONG AS the atmosphere stays romantic.


it is the bite_always_neck that you mean.
the regular bite one is for the description above..
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#98 Old 26th Nov 2010 at 2:35 PM
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Originally Posted by kontekop
nu uh

this is what is written:



it is the bite_always_neck that you mean.
the regular bite one is for the description above..

Hi to you all =)
I see that there are some difficulties for pointing out the various "Bite" versions. I am writing right now a better explanation in the main post (in order to make things really clear ) so check the main post when you got time.
Greetings

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#99 Old 26th Nov 2010 at 2:45 PM
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Originally Posted by ushneera
Hey there
Shoni, do you recommend running both your FullOverhaul AND PCexperts 'AutonomousVampiresOverhaul Compatible' together?

Will these two mods overlap in a good way, or perhaps a bad way?
I ask you because I can see, in the comments of the other mod, that you have taken some time to read through the details in PCexperts vampire Mod. You say there that it does not do exactly what PCexpert advertised, but does it do anything that yours does not? If so are these features you would add in upcoming versions.

It's a little confusing, because there is the Overhaul compatible version of other mod, suggests you'd worked together when that's clearly not the case.

Perhaps, Shoni, you could provide some details here or there as to exactly what that other mod does differently to yours, if anything.

Hi =)
PCexperts did this: he edited the mental powers tuning files making the "autonomous=false" to "true" but that's not sufficient in my opinion, and I'm going to tell you why. Just making an interaction "autonomous" without adding anything else it does NOT actually make it really autonomous: an interaction needs something to be triggered in order to take place ingame and PCexperts mod didn't add anything related to that matter. That is why he doesn't see so often NPC vampires use their mental powers (he writes that NPCs go totally random with interactions, that is not 100% true). My Overhaul does add some input to the mental powers ingame: NPC vampires use their powers more often than usual because they are pushed to use them whenever their social or fun need is mid-low. The only missing thing from my mod (as for now) that his mod has, is that he also made autonomous the "Hunt" interaction (just hunt, NOT an autonomous bite or increased biting ratio) but his mod lacks the trigger input as well. I could post right now an update for this "Hunt" interaction, triggered by a low-thirst bar input perhaps, but it would sound like I am saying that his mod is completely useless if you have mine, and I do not want to do that. Personally, I think that it is merely useless to make npc vamps go hunting and then not bite anyone :/ I hope you got the point on this =)

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#100 Old 26th Nov 2010 at 2:47 PM
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Originally Posted by selindley
Just thought I'd let you know that it conflicts with Discover Traits - Reenabled in Baxim's Extended Game Core Mod as well as Richdre (Crazytown) - Slower Motive Decay ... ultimately removing interactions between household family members. Of course, if someone removes Discover Traits and Slower Motive Decay, it works fine with the rest of the set up I just thought I'd report for you and let you know: this is a fantastic idea and a very brilliant mod.

As I wrote in the main post, unfortunately my FULL mod is not compatible with certain mods that alter the same strings I edited.
Should there be many requests to do a compatible version, I will try my best to do it =) But I posted the split versions also for reasons like this one, no?

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