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Auto Shorter Teens

by Menaceman44 Posted 16th May 2020 at 4:23 PM - Updated 13th Mar 2021 at 9:16 PM by Menaceman44 : Updated Files
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Description
This has been a long time coming.
Ever since the announcement of The Sims 4 and the realisation that Teens would be the same height as Adults I have hoped and dreamed that it would one day be possible to shorten them down with mods.

Mods were created to address this and I was overjoyed but then patches would break them only for them to never be updated.
Fantastic sliders were created to alter the heights of Sims but it all had to be done manually and then reset once a Sim aged past the Teen stage.

I wanted something that would work automatically on all Teens in the game whether played or not and return them to normal height once they passed the Teen stage.
Today I bring you just that!

Info
This mod is an amalgamation of my own work and that of several other wonderful creators used with their permission.
I would very much like to thank simmythesim for the initial early work into height sliders and a shorter Teen mod.
Luumia whos height sliders the modifiers in this mod come from.
NiveaSimsCC whos bone delta values were added to Luumia's modifiers to tweak the result more to my liking.
And CmarNYC for piecing together how to obtain the Instance values required to make this mod work.
Without the help of these wonderful creators I would not have been able to bring this to you today.

So, onto the details.
First of all this is NOT a slider or a body preset.
This mod overrides the Teen specific CAS Modifier Tuning XMLs for each of the occult types and adds in a new reference to the short height modifier.
This means that any Sim that is created as a Teen in CAS, or ages up to a Teen through normal gameplay will automatically be shorter than Adult Sims. It also means that once they age past the Teen stage they will return to the default height for an Adult Sim.
You don't need to do anything different to have this mod take affect on newly created or aged Teens.

It is important to note, however, that already existing Teens will NOT automatically become shorter upon installing this mod. There is a way around this though.
Open the cheat console and enter the cas.fulleditmode cheat. Now take the existing Teen Sim into CAS either through a mirror, dresser, or other method. Once in CAS you need to change either the Sim's frame or gender and then switch back for the shorter height to be applied. You can then exit CAS.

I haven't noticed any oddities when Teens interact with or carry Toddlers or small pets.
A useful side effect of this mod makes it easier to identify Teens from the Relationships and Household Members panels as their pictures will appear lower in the frame when compared to Adults.

I hope you all enjoy your (mostly) automatically shorter Teens!

Notes
As with all height related mods there will be some clipping of animations and certain interactions between Sims of different heights may not align correctly. Correcting those is outside the scope of this mod although I have tried to use values that reduce this.
Teens and Young Adults uploaded to the Gallery will be flagged as containing CC. Pointed out to me by Spiderses. I forgot to check Gallery usage.
This mod is, as far as I am aware and have tested, compatible with other height slider mods. This means you can alter the individual heights of Sims still, including Teens, if you like with the use of other CC sliders.
When creating a Sim and selecting a new body preset for a Teen they may reset to Adult height. To fix this simply swap their gender and then swap back again. Swapping frames does not work in this situation.
On one occassion during testing, after editing a pre-existing Teen their left hand went missing after exiting CAS. After a few minutes of in-game time the hand returned on its own.
If you use Khitsule's pointy ears unlocker then make sure to choose one of the "PlusEarsUnlocker" versions.
This mod also corrects an EA error where the tuning for Teen Spellcasters incorrectly classifies them as Vampires instead.

Conflicts


The mod will conflict with CaS Modifiers bugfix: Aging & Randomization by Shimrod101 although that mod may no longer work anyway since the other modifiers used in it seem to have been removed from the game files.
It will also conflict with Pointy Ears Unlocked - All Ages by Khitsune. If you use this, make sure to download the "PlusEarsUnlocker" version instead and place the file in an Override folder.

March 12th 2021
In an attempt to address the issue where Teens will not get taller when aging to Young Adults for some players, I have recreated the mod with fresh tuning and now included the Young Adult modifier tunings with minor alterations as well.

26th May 2020
Thanks to the feedback from cedrigo I have made it so that Teens necks will now scale down to better suit the smaller propotions. This will affect all Sims as there are no seperate modifiers for the different gender options.
DClick mentioned that this mod conflicts with Khitsule's Pointy Ears Unlocker and so I have added a new version which should mean you can keep both files in your game and still have access to the pointy ears modifiers for Teens.
Lastly, FullMetalAlchemist requested a version that uses the same height as NiveaSimsCC's Teen Preset. There are two versions of this. One with the pointed ears unlocked and one without.
If you spot anything iffy please let me know. I had to edit a lot of numerical values for all the new versions and my eyes might have missed something.

Additional Credits:
MorphMaker,
Sims4Studio,
s4pe.

You must have the expansion, game version or stuff packs listed below installed to use this custom content. Please see the post text for any exceptions.

Sims 4
Built with Game Version: 1.71.86.10
Key: - File was updated after upload was posted
Filename - Tip: You can click the magnifying glass to see the archive contents Size Downloads Date
MMautoShorterTeensShortestPlusEarsUnlocker.zip | For players who want the shortest Teens and also use Khitsule's pointy ears unlocker.

Size: 40.2 KB · Downloads: 13,498 · 12th Mar 2021
40.2 KB 13,498 12th Mar 2021
MMautoShorterTeensShortest.zip | Alternate version to make Teens even shorter. Same height as NiveaSimsCC's Teen preset.

Size: 40.1 KB · Downloads: 20,268 · 12th Mar 2021
40.1 KB 20,268 12th Mar 2021
MMautoShorterTeensPlusEarsUnlocker.zip | Same as basic file but also unlocks pointed ear manipulation for users of Khitsule's unlocker.

Size: 39.9 KB · Downloads: 9,506 · 12th Mar 2021
39.9 KB 9,506 12th Mar 2021
MMautoShorterTeens.zip | Basic mod to make Teens shorter. Main download.

Size: 40.2 KB · Downloads: 58,225 · 12th Mar 2021
40.2 KB 58,225 12th Mar 2021
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Test Subject
THANKS POST
#176 Old 10th Jul 2021 at 8:41 PM
Thanks for answering. When he was a teen he had the teen hight from this mod but after his birthday to a YA he got stuck with it. But its still a great mod to have.
Test Subject
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#177 Old 16th Aug 2021 at 7:37 AM
I cannot wait for to use this in the game... thank you so much...
Test Subject
#178 Old 16th Sep 2021 at 6:44 PM
Is this compatible with Wicked Whims?
Mad Poster
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#179 Old 16th Sep 2021 at 11:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by nathanmikael
Is this compatible with Wicked Whims?

I believe so but as I don't usw WW in my game it is not something I have tested against.

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Test Subject
#180 Old 18th Sep 2021 at 6:08 PM
Is this mod still compatible? I see it hasn't been updated since March. Thanks!
Mad Poster
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#181 Old 18th Sep 2021 at 10:52 PM
Nothing in the coding it changes has been altered since then to my knowledge so it should still be fine.

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Test Subject
THANKS POST
#182 Old 20th Sep 2021 at 9:24 PM
Hi! Thanks a lot for this but changing the frame/gender of the existing teens doesn't work as a workaround... could you help?
Mad Poster
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#183 Old 20th Sep 2021 at 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by NebulaNebulosa
Hi! Thanks a lot for this but changing the frame/gender of the existing teens doesn't work as a workaround... could you help?

It still works for me.
Make sure you are not using the Undo button when you return them to their original body. You have to click the correct option again manually.

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THANKS POST
#184 Old 2nd Oct 2021 at 2:20 PM
As far as I'm concerned, this is an amazing mod.
Test Subject
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#185 Old 9th Oct 2021 at 5:31 AM
now i dont have to do it manualy!
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#186 Old 14th Nov 2021 at 12:24 AM
Thank you! Is there an option to have shorter anyone? Like a woman?
Mad Poster
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#187 Old 14th Nov 2021 at 9:38 PM
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Originally Posted by ABLove123
Thank you! Is there an option to have shorter anyone? Like a woman?

I assume it would be technically possible but I'm honestly not sure which templates or files would need to be edited to achieve it.
The problem with making ALL female Sims shorter than males would mean that no romantic interactions would line up between the two.

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