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FIX / DEFAULT REPLACE af wide jeans + untuckable + maternity

by CatOfEvilGenius Posted 7th Nov 2008 at 7:28 PM - Updated 19th Dec 2010 at 2:34 AM by CatOfEvilGenius
41 Comments / replies (Who?) - 25 Feedback Posts
This is a new mesh, and means that it's a brand new self contained object that usually does not require a specific Expansion pack (although this is possible depending on the type). It may have Recolours hosted on MTS - check below the description for more information.
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update Apr 05 2009 - added shadows to the untucked recolors at the shirt edge, please redownload recolors
update Mar 23 2009 - added a pregnancy morph, see picture in thread
The pregnant pants fit with HP's untuckable top, not with the_mystical_one's pregnant tops, those use a different shape than HP


The Nightlife wide jeans for women had a messed up waist.
I made a default replacement that fixes it. Won't break any recolors.
(Want this for teens? Wojtek0 made *tucked* teen wide jeans, and I made *untucked* teen wide jeans.)

The Maxis bone weights made it move in an unnatural way.
I fixed the bone weights so these pants move like other pants.

The 3D ridge at the waist prevented proper "untuckability".
I have removed it and made three "untuckable" recolors.

white tank by lolie2

I added a pregnant morph that works with HP's untuckable shirts.
Green tee recolor by lenasha.
The pregnant pants fit with HP's untuckable top, not with the_mystical_one's pregnant tops, those use a different shape than HP

I made three untucked recolors of these pants.
Sentate's untucked henleys, HystericalParoxysm's untucked tanks and longsleeves

Nov 7, 08 - KNOWN ISSUE I forgot to point out, you can use solid colored untucked shirts with these pants, but NOT graphic design, lettered, or patterned shirts, because they'll get squished near the waist. I could either have made the pants work with graphic shirts, but break existing pants recolors and have to replace the Maxis textures, or keep the pants recolors and Maxis textures, but not work well with graphic shirts. I went with the second option. (Thanks migamoo for the example picture.)

I used my Cat's UV Data Merge plugin to quickly and easily match the top of the pants UV to the bottom of HP's untucked shirt UV. You can too! Also, you can use Cat's Normal Smoother when removing 3D ridges.

Usage Policy
- You may modify this mesh, please link here for credit.
- You may of course recolor, it's a default replacement.
- Do NOT upload this mesh with recolors, link here instead.
- Do NOT upload my work or derivations thereof to paysites.

Thanks to all the tutorial writers. Thanks to the makers of SimPE and MilkShape, and wes_h and demon (and me!) for plugins. Thanks to HP and all the other makers of untuckable apparel.

Polygon Counts:
610 same as the Maxis original

edit: Just discovered today that BlooM @ InSim also fixed the bone weights earlier.
My thread is still useful though since this mesh is untuckable and has a preg morph.

Age: Adult
Gender: Female
Clothing Type: Everyday
Clothing Style: No Style Modern
Other Type: Not Applicable Maternity Untuckables
Maxis Flags: Default Replacement Maxis Fixed
Outfit Type: Bottom

You must have the expansion or stuff packs listed below installed to use this custom content. Please see the post text for any exceptions.

Sims 2 Nightlife
Key: - File was updated after upload was posted
Filename - Tip: You can click the magnifying glass to see the archive contents Size Downloads Date
af btm wide jean recols WITH

Size: 289.8 KB · Downloads: 5,400 · 6th Apr 2009
289.8 KB 5,400 6th Apr 2009
DEFAULT af wide jeans -

Size: 36.4 KB · Downloads: 8,500 · 23rd Mar 2009
36.4 KB 8,500 23rd Mar 2009
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#2 Old 7th Nov 2008 at 7:36 PM
Awesome! I love these pants, but that waist thing always bugged me a bit. And the untuckables are just great, thanks!
Test Subject
#3 Old 7th Nov 2008 at 7:44 PM
I always wondered if that was something that could be fixed. Those are some of my favorite pants. Thanks!
Field Researcher
#4 Old 7th Nov 2008 at 9:49 PM Last edited by AyameS : 8th Nov 2008 at 5:29 PM.
thanks so much. i love these pants but because of the waist, i hardly use them. you've made my day!
Forum Resident
#5 Old 7th Nov 2008 at 10:26 PM
This has always bottered me. Not that I own Nightlife very long yet, but still...
Thanks for fixing this!!!
Lab Assistant
#6 Old 7th Nov 2008 at 10:56 PM
Thank you so much! I noticed this quite a while ago and just had to cross my fingers and hope that one of you brilliant fixer-uppers would notice it too... hurrah!
Lab Assistant
#7 Old 8th Nov 2008 at 12:23 AM
Oooh, great fix. I always thought that looked ridiculous.

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#8 Old 8th Nov 2008 at 1:06 AM
I was JUST thinking, the other day, "Goodness, with all the other stupid things that have always bugged me about some piece of Maxis content that have since been fixed, WHY has no one fixed the awful waist on the NL pants yet? They used to be the only decent Maxis pants even though they were b0rked!" And yay, now you have! Awesome sauce!
Lab Assistant
#9 Old 8th Nov 2008 at 1:36 AM
These are one of the few Maxis meshes I really like, but it was always kind of annoying to have to search for tops that fit the weird waistband. Now you've fixed it! Thank you!!
Forum Resident
#10 Old 8th Nov 2008 at 2:21 AM
Great fix, thanks a lot!

"If you suspect you won't like the answer, then don't make the question"
Test Subject
#11 Old 8th Nov 2008 at 2:26 AM
Originally Posted by AyameS
thanks so much. i love these pants but because of the waist, i hardly use it. you've made my day!

I absolutely agree with this, nothing to add. Thank you so much. You're a genius .
#12 Old 8th Nov 2008 at 2:37 AM
Thanks for these. But just a question, did you happen to align the UV with the top UV? Because there seems to be some issues. This is the most obvious visual aid I could come up with.

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Field Researcher
#13 Old 8th Nov 2008 at 4:30 AM
thanks! i just noticed yesterday how ridiculous that waist looked.
Not actually evil.
Original Poster
#14 Old 8th Nov 2008 at 4:34 AM
migamoo I know, I should have posted an explanation. I did align the top of the pants UV with the bottom of the shirt UV. However, because of the way the pants are meshed and mapped, I could either make the UV work right but break existing pants recolors, or keep existing pants recolors but with a UV map that squishes part of the texture for tops. It's not obvious on tops that don't have graphics, it is obvious on tops that do have graphics.

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Lab Assistant
#15 Old 8th Nov 2008 at 4:50 AM
Thanks for this - these were always one of my favourite Maxis meshes apart from that darn waist! This is going to make them so much more useful.
Field Researcher
#16 Old 8th Nov 2008 at 5:12 AM
Cat, you are a genius! An evil genius, I might add These are fabulous! Maxis made such nice pants but that waist... Is there anything they don't stuff up? :P

Thanks so much for these
Not actually evil.
Original Poster
#17 Old 8th Nov 2008 at 5:21 AM
Aw, thanks. *huge blush* If I were actually a genius, I would have gotten these to work with graphic shirts too. I am glad folks like the change though, thank you for all your comments (and migamoo for the example picture).

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Forum Resident
#18 Old 8th Nov 2008 at 3:06 PM
great! I didn´t notice the wrong bone weights before, how stupid...^^
Thank you for fixing!!
#19 Old 8th Nov 2008 at 4:55 PM
i think i love you <3
i always knew these whould be good untucked pants...and now they can be! :D
Mad Poster
#20 Old 8th Nov 2008 at 5:50 PM
Incorrect bone weights seem to be the one thing I never notice with MAXIS meshes. I only ever spotted it on that one BV teen girl outfit I fixed and that was only as it made a hole in their arms when zoomed out!
Cheers for fixing this!

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Lab Assistant
#21 Old 8th Nov 2008 at 6:10 PM
Thank you! This has been bothering me for so long! You made my day!

If nothing can go wrong, something will.
Mad Poster
#22 Old 8th Nov 2008 at 8:34 PM
Nice! I love the recolors as well. I second the "genius" title. You have some of the best add-ons out there!

Addicted to The Sims since 2000.
#23 Old 9th Nov 2008 at 1:16 AM
im so happy ive been requesting these pants at insim to be made untuckable for so long im glad some one else wanted these as well and you fixed the goofy waist to boot great job

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Lab Assistant
#24 Old 9th Nov 2008 at 7:02 AM
I really love your pants fix - though I'm hoping that your pants have the Pregnancy bump added to them because I already have a pregnancy add-on which replaces this mesh with the bump - but I like your pants because it fixes the other issues with the mesh.

In the future do you think you will add the pregnancy bump to these?
Not actually evil.
Original Poster
#25 Old 9th Nov 2008 at 7:26 PM
pregnancy bump That's an excellent idea, actually, Tabatha. I'll do it later, make it match HP's untuckable shirts w/ preg morph.

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