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Smarter Baby Care v5

by scumbumbo Posted 5th Jan 2015 at 6:11 AM - Updated 30th Aug 2018 at 7:54 AM by scumbumbo : Updated to v5 (Aug 16, 2018 game patch)
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Updated (Aug 30, 2018) - Version 5 of the mod has been updated for compatibility with the August 16, 2018 game patch. If you update the mod, be sure to remove the old version!

Outdated versions of the mod have been removed and are no longer supported.

Description

Seems like everytime a baby in The Sims 4 needs attention, a child goes to it and starts annoying it while it cries it's little heart out effectively blocking an adult from getting to the baby and doing the right thing. Then, you get the child out of the way and the mother tries to feed the baby, bounce it up and down, talk to it, coo at it, or show it off to the neighbors even though it's obviously soiled it's diaper! I'm surprised they don't try sticking the bottle into the wrong end as stupid as they can be.

Some people like that. I don't, and if you don't either then this mod is for you.

This mod tunes the autonomy of baby care interactions to make sims treat their newborns much more intelligently. Like, WAY more intelligently. Possibly too intelligently for some tastes as, let's face it, in real life sometimes you really don't have any clue why a baby is crying. But this isn't real life, it's a freaking game.

The following changes are made to baby care autonomy:
  • If a baby is hungry or has a dirty diaper, a teen or adult will automatically take care of the problem.
  • If a baby is lonely, a sim will interact with it to build it's social statistic, UNLESS the baby has a more serious issue such as hunger or a soiled diaper in which case that will be taken care of first.
  • The social interactions (except for shushing it) with a baby will increase it's social score. A bug in all the interactions except cuddle and bounce made talking to a baby, cooing at it, etc. totally pointless.
  • The shush interaction is no longer used autonomously.
  • Sims will not (autonomously) wake up a sleeping baby to interact with it, even if it has needs. It's asleep, let it be! (Of course, you can still direct a sim to annoy a sleeping baby all you want.)
  • The "coo at" animation was replaced with a talking animation because it looked really stupid (IMHO) and would probably annoy the hell out of a baby (fact). There is also a _NoAnim version of the mod which doesn't replace the animation.
  • Sims will be drawn to interact autonomously with a baby if it's social needs have dropped to a medium level rather than waiting until it is crying,reducing the chance that it will get too lonely.
  • Sims will no longer autonomously try to feed a child that isn't hungry enough.
  • No changes were made to try to make baby care, even urgent needs, more desirable to a sim - they won't drop everything and still may ignore a baby for a while if they have other needs to attend to. However, they should get to it long before it becomes a case for a visit from a social worker / baby snatcher.

Installation Instructions

Just unzip the package file to your Mods folder as usual.

This mod requires The Sims 4 to be patched to at least version 1.46.18.1020 (August 16, 2018).

This mod may cause conflicts with other mods which change these baby care interactions. Due to the wide variety of mods and sources for them, it is unlikely I will be able to help you with such a conflict.



Additional Credits:
Kuree and all the others at Sims4Group who have put together the S4PE tool

You must have the expansion or stuff packs listed below installed to use this custom content. Please see the post text for any exceptions.

Sims 4

This is a multi-part download:


Use only one version of the mod. Read the descriptions and be sure you use a version appropriate for your game patch level.
Key: - File was updated after upload was posted
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SmarterBabyCare_NoAnim.zip | Current NoAnim Version (Aug 16, 2018 game patch)

Size: 25.5 KB · Downloads: 13,990 · 30th Aug 2018
25.5 KB 13,990 30th Aug 2018
SmarterBabyCare.zip | Current Version (Aug 16, 2018 game patch)

Size: 25.5 KB · Downloads: 53,922 · 30th Aug 2018
25.5 KB 53,922 30th Aug 2018
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Original Poster
#126 Old 30th Aug 2018 at 7:51 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tams1978
Is this still compatible with the August 16th patch? I'm going to have to reinstall it because, without it, my Sims are pretty hopeless.


Yes it was still working fine, but there were some tweaks that were still needing to be fixed regarding some display name overrides, so I'm making those changes now.
Scholar
THANKS POST
#127 Old 30th Aug 2018 at 10:55 AM
Awesome! Does it affect Butlers, if there are butlers in the household especially ahem if the butler is the father :o Or are they dumbasses about baby care too
Field Researcher
THANKS POST
#128 Old 30th Aug 2018 at 12:34 PM
thank you!!!
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Original Poster
#129 Old 30th Aug 2018 at 5:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by spidergirl79
Awesome! Does it affect Butlers, if there are butlers in the household especially ahem if the butler is the father :o Or are they dumbasses about baby care too


Yes, it should affect buttlers too since they use the same interactions.
Lab Assistant
THANKS POST
#130 Old 30th Aug 2018 at 9:57 PM
you are da man!
Instructor
#131 Old 1st Sep 2018 at 8:09 PM
Would is be possible to have the sims be related to the baby to tend to the baby's needs autonomously?
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Original Poster
#132 Old 2nd Sep 2018 at 3:26 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Manderz0630
Would is be possible to have the sims be related to the baby to tend to the baby's needs autonomously?


The mod only removes autonomy for some of the "unnecessary" baby interactions, they will tend to its needs autonomously more appropriately than before with this mod.
Test Subject
THANKS POST
#133 Old 5th Sep 2018 at 4:29 AM
Honestly EA should have included this from day 1 but they didn't and we have you! Thanks xoxo
Test Subject
#134 Old 22nd Nov 2018 at 7:00 PM
Any issues with new patch?
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Original Poster
#135 Old 23rd Nov 2018 at 9:44 AM
I'm not 100% sure, it seemed to be working after the patch on the 13th, but I haven't had a chance to look into it in any detail and haven't had a chance to look at all since the most recent patch. It should be safe to run and see if there's any issues that it is causing at the very least.
Lab Assistant
THANKS POST
#136 Old 6th Jan 2019 at 8:08 PM
thank you
Lab Assistant
#137 Old 16th Jan 2019 at 1:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by scumbumbo
I'm not 100% sure, it seemed to be working after the patch on the 13th, but I haven't had a chance to look into it in any detail and haven't had a chance to look at all since the most recent patch. It should be safe to run and see if there's any issues that it is causing at the very least.


Do you know if your mod conflicts with Children care for siblings mod ?
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Original Poster
#138 Old 16th Jan 2019 at 6:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chihime
Do you know if your mod conflicts with Children care for siblings mod ?

That is a mod for The Sims 3, so there would be no conflicts as that is a completely different game. This mod will not work with TS3.
Test Subject
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#139 Old 2nd Mar 2019 at 2:12 AM
Is it working with Strangerville ?
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Original Poster
#140 Old 2nd Mar 2019 at 6:46 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eirence
Is it working with Strangerville ?

Pretty sure I checked everything, but will check this again real quick to verify...

Yes everything checks out, hasn't been any changes to those XML files since August last year so no update is required.
Test Subject
#141 Old 5th Mar 2019 at 1:36 AM
Is it just babies or toddlers too?
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Original Poster
#142 Old 5th Mar 2019 at 8:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by LolliMusic90
Is it just babies or toddlers too?

Just babies. I don't run toddlers in my own game so there's no reason to mod them (at least for myself)
http://modthesims.info/d/614464/ski...-lifestage.html
Test Subject
#143 Old 15th Mar 2019 at 1:51 PM
u're a frickin hero <3
Those sims acting stupid around babies, not knowing what to with them as if they're riddles or something just f r e a k me out. Thanks, you saved my nerves!
Test Subject
#144 Old 13th Apr 2019 at 3:09 AM
I'm curious about the note mentioning "shush interaction no longer used autonomously". I've literally NEVER seen a sim perform the action autonomously - which is just as well since the default baby care behaviour is atrocious and sims often walk away from crying babies after performing 4-5 interactions which fail to address the baby's needs (often they just bounce/coo/talk).

I was interested in this mod, but it seems overkill. TS4 babies only care about their hunger and hygiene needs, with social a distant third - far distant, because performing the interactions dealing with the first two also fulfill social, so you very rarely see a lonely baby, and even then it's mostly because of the bug you pointed out - a child would be hogging the baby's attention but a bug prevents its social need from going up. Btw I think children are bugged too, if they interact with a baby they will get stuck interacting with it until their own needs force them away or you use another sim to interact with them (I have my sim hang around townie households so I can't take control of the children directly - better imo since it lets me observe sim behaviour unimpeded by player input). Older sims are perfectly content to maybe bounce/coo/talk at a baby then wander off even while the baby is still crying.

Speaking of autonomous interaction, I've actually NOT seen sims autonomously interact with a baby unless it was crying. Maybe only in player households? The way I play is I create one sim, then have him visit townie households and hang around. This is how I see what I've seen. Since I started playing the game late last year, I've only bothered to have my own household family a couple times, then got bored because I control all the sims and can easily magically deal with their needs. I find it far more interesting to have my sim hang out in an unplayed townie household and watch them stumble about their lives. This is how I've noticed I never see babies being interacted with unless they were crying (even after I cheat build mode and put the baby bassinet literally in the middle of the living room which forces all the other sims in the household to walk past it all the time), and how I've never seen sims shush their babies. Never seen the "show off baby" interaction being performed autonomously either. Literally I've only seen sims use bounce (the most), change diaper, bottle feed/breast feed, coo, talk, and very rarely cuddle. I've NEVER seen them use rock, shush, make silly face, find out what's wrong (even if they have enough parenting skill, I have Itasan's "Show Sim Info" mod), show off baby, or age up (well, this last one is kinda expected). Btw shush and make silly face inflict a "baby distraction" buff(?) that temporarily prevents crying, which was why I assumed the game doesn't let sims autonomously do those actions since they'll prevent a baby from being taken care of (which also imo confirms that babies are ignored unless they cry).

Personally, I'd like a bugfix that solves the children getting stuck on baby thing, as well as smell reaction = automatically force a diaper change. In my experience that'd fix most of the crying unattended babies I've observed. And maybe don't walk away while the baby is still crying, it's possible the parent does a useless diaper change when the baby is still clean but crying because it's hungry, then while they bottle feed the baby it dirties its diaper, but the parent sim has "already" dealt with the diaper in that series of interactions so after feeding they walk away even as the baby is still crying. This mod sounds like it will take care all that, but it feels way overkill imo lol. I kinda like the current lackadaisical "eh, maybe i'll take care of it" style of sim parenting, except for the bugged bits.
Lab Assistant
#145 Old 9th Apr 2020 at 3:28 AM
I can confirm that this mod works with Patch 1.62.67 (7 April 2020).

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Test Subject
#146 Old 30th Apr 2020 at 2:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Athena Apollos
I can confirm that this mod works with Patch 1.62.67 (7 April 2020).


Thank you
Test Subject
#147 Old 9th Jun 2020 at 2:09 PM
Seems to work with Update 06/04/2020 Mac: 1.63.134.1220
I used an existing save file with a baby, 2 adults, 2 teens and 2 children. The kids left the crying baby alone. The first time, the baby seemed to cry for too long and no one was interacting with her. I had just moved the bassinet in build mode. I had the mother super efficient baby care and from then on, random sims would socialize with the baby while she was awake. If she was crying, someone would eventually get to her and fix it properly.
Test Subject
THANKS POST
#148 Old 20th Jul 2020 at 5:18 AM
I'll use it well. Thank you.
Scholar
#149 Old 26th Sep 2020 at 1:53 AM
I'm questioning if this is working properly. Baby wakes up my sims, my sims just go ahead and take care of their needs, ignoring the baby.

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Test Subject
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#150 Old 23rd Oct 2020 at 3:44 AM
RIP Scumbumbo
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