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Doctors Need Degrees

by KittyCarey Posted 10th Jun 2021 at 5:45 PM - Updated 22nd Jun 2021 at 1:02 PM by KittyCarey
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This mod requires Cyjon's Smarter EP Check, found here:

In the real world, it is not possible to be a doctor, a teacher, a scientist, or a lawyer without a degree. While the lowest levels of the career are something that anyone can do, very quickly you would find that the next job up is only available with the right qualifications.

Other careers, however, don't need to be so strict. Why would criminals or gamers care what sort of education you've had? And why do you need a degree to get any job in Paranormal?

If you've ever been bothered by this in your sims 2 games, this mod is for you!

How it works:
Sims are divided into five categories depending on their education:
- Graduated sims have graduated university
- Diploma sims attended university and reached at least their Junior year before dropping out or being expelled.
- High School C sims achieved at least a C at high school but either never went to university or dropped out early (or were created in CAS)
- High School D sims achieved between D- and C- at high school.
- High School F sims failed high school.

Careers are divided into four different categories. Within each career category, there is a different maximum level for each type of sim, as well as a different chance of being promoted past that point.

Careers that require a degree:
Careers: Medicine, Science, Natural Science, Law, Education
Limits: Graduated = 10, Diploma = 5, High School C = 3, High School D = 1 and High School F = 1.
Chance of passing limit: None whatsoever. Sorry sims.

Careers that a degree is very useful:
Careers: Business, Law Enforcement, Military, Show Business, Journalism, Architecture, Intelligence, Oceanography
Limits: Graduated = 10, Diploma = 7, High School C = 5, High School D = 3, High School F = 1.
Chance of passing limit: 10% per attempt (so it's possible, but unlikely).

Careers that a diploma is useful:
Careers: Athletics, Culinary, Politics, Slacker, Artist, Paranormal, Music, Entertainment, Dance
Limits: Graduated = 10, Diploma = 10, High School C = 7, High School D = 5, High School F = 3
Chance of passing limit: 25% per attempt (so while promotions are slower, they do happen)

Careers that do not care about your education:
Careers: Criminal, Adventurer, Gamer
Limits: All sims = 10

When a promotion comes up in a chance card, this mod runs the same checks as it would for any other promotion, and so the promotion may not happen. In that case, you will still get the promotion bonus (as otherwise you wouldn't get anything for a successful chance card pick).

Update: Custom careers now default to the [i]Careers that a diploma is useful[\i] category, so redownload if you have a custom career. Instructions for adding custom careers to other categories are also available.

Cyjon's Edukashun iz Gud (this is an expanded version)
Pescado's harderjobs (if this loads last, it will work without the job limits)
Anything that mods the bhavs "Qualify for level" or "Chance card - results"

Cyjon, whose [i]Edukashun iz Gud[\i] was the base for this mod, and whose code I have shamelessly used thanks to their generous 'don't reinvent the wheel' policy.
All the makers of SimPE, without which this mod would never have made any progress.

You must have the expansion or stuff packs listed below installed to use this custom content. Please see the post text for any exceptions.

Sims 2 University
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#26 Old 1st Jul 2021 at 4:05 PM Last edited by D.J.ELMME : 1st Jul 2021 at 4:16 PM. Reason: Made an error regarding "Incorrect Careers showing".
Originally Posted by KittyCarey
Thank you for testing this and uploading the log. Unfortunately I have bad news: the errors seem to be coming from the part of the code that unlocks the university careers for all sims that comes directly from Cyjon's mod, and I don't know how to make the compatible with just EP1.

The good news is that the rest of the mod should work without it - so I have attached a new version for you in this post. If you'd like to test out this one, please do and let me know if it works. If so, I can upload it on the main page for anyone else in your situation (and I'll work on understanding the issue with the standard version).

Really appreciate the update, more than happy to do some testing for you.

So, it may have got a bit complicated but I’ll share anyway, I also appreciate that this works for UC and I personally don’t want you to waste your time getting it to work just for one configuration .

When Sims now try to Find a Job with the newspaper it appears to be working correctly. When Sims try to do the same with a computer the jump bug occurs 100% of the time on different days. Likewise, when Sims return from work and exit the carpool. I’ve attached error logs.

Game & Expansion(s): Base Game & Expansion Pack 1 (University)

What Works: KittyCarey-DoctorsNeedDegrees-v1-1_noUnlockCheck
- Finding a job through the newspaper
- Correct careers showing for sims without a degree
- Correct careers showing for sims with a degree
- Expansion Pack 1 Careers showing
- Taking a job through the newspaper

What causes an error (jump bug): KittyCarey-DoctorsNeedDegrees-v1-1_noUnlockCheck
- Finding a job through a computer (ObjectError_N001_t573343.txt)
- Finishing work and exiting a carpool (ObjectError_N001_t590877.txt)

Unintended outcomes: Reading your career requirements again I think this is intended so ignore this. My bad!
- Newspaper: Incorrect careers showing for sims without a degree. (Picture Attached)

Things I tested:
- Multiple Sims in different households
- Different Days
- A Clean Neighbourhood
- No other packages (Smarter EP Check installed)

Again, much appreciated.
Download - please read all instructions before downloading any files!
File Type: txt ObjectError_N001_t573343.txt (75.0 KB, 0 downloads)
File Type: txt ObjectError_N001_t590877.txt (70.9 KB, 0 downloads)
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