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Mad Poster
#326 Old 22nd Jul 2019 at 9:08 PM
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Originally Posted by matrix54
Challenge Everything was their general slogan or motto. It was cut after a while.

"EA Sports. IT'S IN THE GAME."
Except it's not in the game anymore because the fuckers are selling it as 10 separate €5 DLCs several months after release.

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Mad Poster
#327 Old 24th Jul 2019 at 12:13 PM
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Electronic Arts: Epic Fail

EA has lost the rights to Ronaldo's Juventus in FIFA 20, which significantly damages the value of their main cash cow.

The launch of Apex Legends Season 2 also did not create much fanfare and missed expectations.

These multiple screw-ups may be an indication of a much larger problem with management.

The stock doesn't seem cheap enough for activists to get involved, so there may not be support for quite a while.


https://seekingalpha.com/article/42...d=mw_quote_news

Does anybody play FIFA? If so, is this loss as significant as it is being touted, or is this investors being butt hurt?

The reaction doesn't surprise me either way as FIFA is EA's golden goose, so any time they lose a contract to a competitor, there is going to be noise about it. I'm sure there is also plenty of butt hurt within EA itself as now they have to pull content from FIFA 20 as they no longer have that license.

I'm more curious about why a team has decided to flip EA the bird and go elsewhere. I can't prove anything, but I have to wonder if all the talk about loot boxes is starting to reach places that hadn't been considered and or thought of. The question becomes whether this will be a big enough slap on EA's wrist so they'll take the hint or will they continue on their merry way of business as usual? If I were a betting person, I'd say the loss isn't big enough, yet.

If Apex were as great as EA made it out to be, people would have been continually gushing over it to begin with. Since the game had very little organic growth and EA thought they could buy love for the game, it blew up in their face.

As for management, we already know there is no shortage of problems there. We don't even have to acknowledge FIFA, all one has to do is look at TS4. Since Android Wilson seems to believe that social media will fix all of EA's problems, maybe he should get on the phone with his Silicon Valley friends, Jack Dorsey or Mark Zuckerberg and seek their advice. How many proverbial, self-inflicted wounds does EA have to give itself before they understand that the problems are all from within? When the social media 'fix' doesn't help, what will EA think of next? It won't be long before we find out that answer.
Mad Poster
#328 Old 24th Jul 2019 at 5:48 PM
My favorite publisher is saved!

P.S. Sorry for my bad english.
Instructor
#329 Old 24th Jul 2019 at 7:23 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-49074003

We'll get them in the end. British law is a bit slow and too many old dodderers. Maybe a few more Boris sackings. He's got rid of most of Mrs. May's cabinet!
Top Secret Researcher
#330 Old 24th Jul 2019 at 8:25 PM
Losing Juventus is a big hit - they are an extremely prominent team in Italian soccer, and have a lot of fans outside Italy as well. Particularly as Pro Evolution Soccer got the rights instead.

Particularly as Cristiano Ronaldo was their COVER BOY for the product prior to this.

(I've been both a gamer and a soccer fan since the 1970s.)
Mad Poster
#331 Old 24th Jul 2019 at 10:12 PM
I'm not always a football fan, but when I am, we lose 0-2 to the freaking Americans. At least we lost against a football country in 2010.
Be nice if this win makes them get into some real sports for once though. From what I've seen of the Superb Owl, it's 50% ad, 25% concert, and 25% actual fucking sporting event. And to tell you the truth, I have no idea what kind of sport that would be. Baseball, I imagine.

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Mad Poster
#332 Old 29th Jul 2019 at 5:48 PM
Want to know what former CEO of EA (John Riccitiello) talked about during investor meetings? It is the same thing they talk about today; how to manipulate people into spending more money. The difference between now and then is the following video is based on a audio clip as EA would never reveal such info otherwise.

Listen to EA's Former CEO Gloat About Manipulating Players Into Spending Money

What is John Riccitiello up to these days? He's the CEO of Unity and is being sued; nice guy... nope!

Unity boss John Riccitiello faces sexual harassment lawsuit from former exec
Scholar
#333 Old 30th Jul 2019 at 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Hamishmc
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-49074003

We'll get them in the end. British law is a bit slow and too many old dodderers. Maybe a few more Boris sackings. He's got rid of most of Mrs. May's cabinet!


Imo this could be an example of an outdated legal definition.

The two sides:
- What do you want to achieve with the gambling law? (spirit of the law)
- Are lootboxes seen as gambling within the current definition of the gambling law? (letter of the law)

Those can be two different answers. And if that is the case, the gambling law should be updated.

That institution probably only checks if they have a chance in court according to the current definition of that law.
Instructor
#334 Old 30th Jul 2019 at 12:14 PM Last edited by Hamishmc : 30th Jul 2019 at 12:29 PM.
Maybe what Rockstar is doing with GTA might stir the UK to do something with the gambling laws and children. Rockstar are already unpopular for paying very little tax in the UK, reported last week, and adding a Casino to their game might stir the Government on to do something.
I got sent this Youtube link about it...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3D...eature=youtu.be

I left it running and the next one was the EA CEO gloat one!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cut1E5hua_4
Mad Poster
#335 Old 30th Jul 2019 at 3:29 PM
Jim Sterling had a interesting take on the whole GTA ordeal. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Rt...nel=JimSterling

I find it interesting that 30 plus countries blocked players from 'gambling' in GTA, but when EA labels something as surprise mechanics, somehow it is different. I think it was Yong who said that it goes to show that as long as something is given a different name, gambling is acceptable. My peeve with double standards is all mine, but seriously. China is worried about gambling, but 10cent is where many mobile games come from which are loaded with surprise mechanics and microtransactions.

How long will it be before casinos start showing up in more games? A couple of months? A year? Will they add cool down periods with spending limits or will it become a big ol' free for all?

It begs the question of if there is going to be a TS5, will it be another version of Sims Mobile?

The gaming industry...

I'm glad I stopped handing money over to the industry when I did; I'm not missing anything other than keeping grubby, corporate paws off of my wallet.
Mad Poster
#336 Old 31st Jul 2019 at 12:54 PM
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EA +1.8% as bookings beat, tax benefit assists profits

Electronic Arts (NASDAQ:EA) is up 1.8% postmarket after topping revenue expectations in its fiscal Q1 report, though profits fell short of the bar.

Bookings as reported ticked down; digital net bookings for the trailing 12 months rose 5%, to $3.73B (76% of total net bookings).

Net revenue breakout: Product, $166M (down 17.8%); Service and other, $1.04B (up 11.6%).

Net cash from operations was $158M ($1.585B for trailing 12 months).

A number of tax events occurred during the quarter (including those around EA's Swiss subsidiary) that lead the company to recognize a benefit for Q1, Q2 and the full year.

That led net income to swing to $1.421B from a year-ago $293M. The company recognized $1.08B of the income tax benefit during the quarter.

For Q2, it's guiding to net bookings of $1.23B, with net income of $776M ($620M coming from income tax benefits).

For the full year, it expects net bookings of $5.1B and net income of $2.795B (about $1.7B of that coming from the income tax benefits).



https://seekingalpha.com/news/34838...d=mw_quote_news

For a company that constantly thumps their chests over how 'great' they are, 1.8% growth is really pathetic and it is not even all tangible / product growth. To fluff their revenue, lots of stock was sold which we already knew about and they used corporate tax bullshit to dodge paying taxes on the money in their Swiss bank account.

I haven't bothered to read the conference report and I'm not going to as it will be more of the same. They will say stupid things like TS4 has grown by 50% year over year and yet they never give a baseline number that actually shows growth. Common sense would tell the average person after TS4 was free for a week and the endless ongoing sales would bring in some sales, but AAA games that are 'good' are never free for a week or constantly on sale.

Speaking of AAA gaming with their money hiding and all the shit things they do, I have to eat my words about not giving gaming companies money from yesterday. I forgot that they are bloodsucking leeches that sponge off of tax payers, so yes, I am giving them money, it just so happens to be against my will and without my permission.

Rockstar Is Just Another Tax Ducking Corporate Parasite Rockstar is not alone of course. Activision gets a refund for not paying anything... Corporate Parasites: Activision Pays Zero Income Tax, Gets A Refund Anyway

Power corrupts; absolute power corrupts absolutely <----- A message no longer reserved just for Big Government.
Field Researcher
#337 Old 31st Jul 2019 at 2:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Hamishmc
Maybe what Rockstar is doing with GTA might stir the UK to do something with the gambling laws and children. Rockstar are already unpopular for paying very little tax in the UK, reported last week, and adding a Casino to their game might stir the Government on to do something.
I got sent this Youtube link about it...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3D...eature=youtu.be

I left it running and the next one was the EA CEO gloat one!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cut1E5hua_4


I absolutely agree about the tax issue. But I can’t get upset that kids are being exposed to gambling. GTA is 18+ for a reason and kids shouldn’t be on there. I know they are in many cases (my nephew is one) but that’s down to the parents to to watch what their kids are doing. I love GTA but don’t play online, don’t really agree with the casino either.
Mad Poster
#338 Old 31st Jul 2019 at 4:32 PM
I need to stop reading, but before I do, I found the end of the following article a bit curious.

The title of the article is: EA’s latest numbers should ‘take the edge off,’ says analyst


Quote:

Jefferies analyst Alex Giaimo stayed on the sidelines after EA’s report, but he said the numbers should “help reverse the negative sentiment on EA (which has recently been the worst among the U.S. publishers).” He added that investors are putting too much stake in Apex Legends, in his view, given that the title would only account for about 7% of EA’s total bookings at the midpoint of management’s forecast.

“We note that The Sims 4 (which is more profitable than Apex) is expected to deliver the same in annual bookings yet receives way less investor focus/interest,” he wrote. Giaimo reiterated his hold rating and $100 target but said that the risk/reward balance was beginning to look more favorable.


https://www.marketwatch.com/story/e...d=mw_quote_news

Due to the lack of a definition of what is deemed profitable, for all I know, TS4 could be 8% of EA's profits and that earns the title of 'being more profitable'. What is more interesting though is the lack of interest investors have in the the game. It would be interesting to see if it has always been that way or if it is TS4 specific. A project for another day unless somebody has info to share.
Field Researcher
#339 Old 31st Jul 2019 at 8:47 PM
What I don´t understand is, why people continue wondering why EA is so bad? As example: I wonder for a while, why the devil is bad? Cause he was "born bad". Has basically bad ideas, and is up to no good 24/7. And nothing in the world will change that. Then after a while, I stop wondering cause I understand. But why so many guys, start threads in the net about why EA is bad?? We know why they are bad, futile to keep wondering seriously.
Field Researcher
#340 Old 31st Jul 2019 at 9:02 PM
Some people don’t believe that EA are bad.

They are called share holders

Seriously, some will still defend this company. A quick glance on officials shows that.
Mad Poster
#341 Old 31st Jul 2019 at 10:01 PM
I've made a very deliberate decision not to shill for anything anymore unless I'm financially compensated for it like all those Trump supporters said. That's great. Give me a week and I'll find 100 remarks I have made that could be interpreted as pro-EA. No, €5 per comment is fine. Yeah, I insist.

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Mad Poster
#342 Old 1st Aug 2019 at 11:53 AM
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EA Earnings (Q1 FY20): Fiscal Year ’20 to be “Biggest Year Yet” of Content for The Sims 4


Blake J. Jorgensen – Electronic Arts Inc. – COO & CFO

Obviously, Sims, we’ve called out that it’s in the same range of $300 million to $400 million. We didn’t do that before, but we wanted to remind people that our business is not based on Apex Legends alone. It’s very important to us, but it’s still a relatively small part of our overall business. And franchises like The Sims have been continually producing that range of revenues because we run them as a live service.

And we want to make sure people understand, we have confidence in building a live service around Apex and that will continue to grow over time and we’ll continue to update you as we learn more. But we know we’ve got amazing engagement. We have 8 million to 10 million people on a weekly basis playing the game. That’s huge for us on almost any game that we see. And we’ll continue to take advantage of that, keep them engaged and playing everyday.



https://simsvip.com/2019/07/31/ea-e...for-the-sims-4/

Hopefully this now settles the hearsay about just how much the sims franchise makes and where it stands in terms of the game food chain with EA. It isn't a FIFA, it is near the bottom with Apex which isn't doing well.

It would appear that Blake J. Jorgensen isn't much of a sims fan either as he keeps referring to both of them as if they are one game. The most honest thing in the quoted part of his statement is that they'll continue to take advantage of players, although that goes for any game EA produces; not just Sims or Apex.
Mad Poster
#343 Old 1st Aug 2019 at 6:11 PM
You know guys...





If it weren't for EA, we (simmers) wouldn't be here if maxis didn't exist. It breaks my heart how everybody is natural complainer and never really appreciate the good deeds it has done. Business are there to make money, so who ever protests surprise mechanics are fools and morons.

P.S. Sorry for my bad english.
Instructor
#344 Old 1st Aug 2019 at 9:40 PM
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Originally Posted by SneakyWingPhoenix
You know guys...





If it weren't for EA, we (simmers) wouldn't be here if maxis didn't exist. It breaks my heart how everybody is natural complainer and never really appreciate the good deeds it has done. Business are there to make money, so who ever protests surprise mechanics are fools and morons.


Do you think that there would be a similar game now if EA hadn't taken Maxis over in 1997? They did at least show a demand for the genre. Maxis wasn't particularly interested at the time. They might have gone downhill since 2 but aren't you grateful to them for those first two?

What would you do if you couldn't complain about EA on a website devoted to their games?

Unfortunately that's how business have to work if they have shareholders who keep selling and buying at the first small adverse happening.
Instructor
#345 Old 1st Aug 2019 at 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Hamishmc
Do you think that there would be a similar game now if EA hadn't taken Maxis over in 1997? They did at least show a demand for the genre. Maxis wasn't particularly interested at the time. They might have gone downhill since 2 but aren't you grateful to them for those first two?

What would you do if you couldn't complain about EA on a website devoted to their games?

Unfortunately that's how business have to work if they have shareholders who keep selling and buying at the first small adverse happening.


I'll be honest I'm grateful for the first two sims games, heck even the 3rd iteration, but somewhere within the third game and possibly before they changed and it really shows now.

I don't see it so as people complaining about the corporation when it comes to what they pushed maxis to do in the past it's more so where they've become now. EA used to have awesome freaking games and now it's like they put just anything out to make a buck. And the companies they partnered with whether it be Maxis or whichever there has been a spiral downward and it's not just simmers who see it. Those who play other games also see it.

If there was no way to give my feedback on an EA website I would not only voice my opinions on other sites and I would definitely not continue to buy. I mean I'm already doing that now lol, but I'm sure if we didn't have youtube, twitter, facebook, forums or anything and we were still back in the day where the internet was obsolete people, including myself, would definitely show their disdain with not purchasing in the first place or stopping continuous purchases and sharing experiences amongst friends who play the same games.

I get it, corporations have a business to run, we all are aware of that, however, when the way they practice their business becomes sleazy and they're trying to rip off the consumers just for the sake of a buck it becomes a problem to people. Especially when the consumers were accustomed to an excellent quality product before. I find it crazy how some will let these gaming corporations get away with more than other corporations. Think about it this way, If you have been buying the same hair products for the last 15+ years and one day you buy it and it makes your hair dull and lifeless in comparison to how the product was before and you come to find out the ingredients changed to a lower quality wouldn't you be upset? Especially if the company constantly emphasizes high-quality products? I know I'd be mad, heck that actually happened with a hair product I use. And I stopped buying and found another company who uses higher quality products. So I completely understand where you are coming from, however, these businesses need to realize they cannot continue to get over on their consumers despite the role of the shareholders because if enough of us stopped buying their low-quality products the shareholders will eventually pull out and search for somewhere else to invest.
Mad Poster
#346 Old 2nd Aug 2019 at 12:11 AM
Businesses need to make money and as long as the Sims brings in enough money to be profitable they will keep on developing the games. Frankly, I don't see how FIFA is such a big seller, and they bring a new one every year, maybe it's because of the demographic it is aimed at and football is a big interest to that demographic, or maybe the reason it's such a big seller is because they treat it like shampoo and buy a new bottle when the old one runs empty. Anyway, I think it would be nice if they brought back the sandbox style playing and treat it like one big box of Lego bricks and pieces and allow the players the freedom to play however they want. Lego is a big business and you can stack their bricks any way you want to. They could sell lots of advertisements in the form of game content, like they did with the H&M, Ikea and Moschino stuff. Maybe add in special features and interactions to sponsored content so branded stuff is more attractive and interesting than generic stuff and if they include a sims fidelity card maybe they could give special deals in the real life stores so you're tempted to shop the real thing too not just for your sims.
Mad Poster
#347 Old 2nd Aug 2019 at 1:21 AM
FIFA is a big deal for EA because people spend thousands of dollars on it. If people did the same with sims, the sims franchise would be considered big news in the eyes of EA as well.
Field Researcher
#348 Old 2nd Aug 2019 at 7:51 AM
Fifa is EA’s biggest cash cow with its “fun Surprise mechanics” aka loot boxes.
Mad Poster
#349 Old 2nd Aug 2019 at 3:28 PM Last edited by SneakyWingPhoenix : 2nd Aug 2019 at 3:50 PM.
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Originally Posted by Hamishmc
Do you think that there would be a similar game now if EA hadn't taken Maxis over in 1997? They did at least show a demand for the genre. Maxis wasn't particularly interested at the time. They might have gone downhill since 2 but aren't you grateful to them for those first two?

What would you do if you couldn't complain about EA on a website devoted to their games?

Unfortunately that's how business have to work if they have shareholders who keep selling and buying at the first small adverse happening.

Everybody is praising the Mrs W. Wright (more like Will Rwrong, amirite) as if he was some kind god father that revision the take what games are about and that the idea of simulating average human life was an original idea ir something. Well, newsflash: the concept of Life isn't new and something we all can experience outside games. Damn, why do people take this fraud as if he was one of the influential individuals in the gaming industry history. All he did was make a spin for a game that revolve around by the element of human psychology working he pliagiarized to make profit out of. Lol, you suckers are so closed minded; I feel confident to say that someone identical to him would have thought and achieved making their own version of Sims coincidental at the same time with the same company (and maybe did it with a studio that he also coincendatally founded by the name "maxis").

(I'm not sure how I can keep up
impersonating and doing a character that sounds sarcastic or says dumb false shit accompanied with enforced argumental falacies, to point you want to believe his being sarcastic not some ignorant dumb fool)

P.S. Sorry for my bad english.
Mad Poster
#350 Old 2nd Aug 2019 at 5:33 PM
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Originally Posted by SneakyWingPhoenix
Everybody is praising the Mrs W. Wright (more like Will Rwrong, amirite) as if he was some kind god father that revision the take what games are about and that the idea of simulating average human life was an original idea ir something. Well, newsflash: the concept of Life isn't new and something we all can experience outside games. Damn, why do people take this fraud as if he was one of the influential individuals in the gaming industry history. All he did was make a spin for a game that revolve around by the element of human psychology working he pliagiarized to make profit out of. Lol, you suckers are so closed minded; I feel confident to say that someone identical to him would have thought and achieved making their own version of Sims coincidental at the same time with the same company (and maybe did it with a studio that he also coincendatally founded by the name "maxis").

(I'm not sure how I can keep up
impersonating and doing a character that sounds sarcastic or says dumb false shit accompanied with enforced argumental falacies, to point you want to believe his being sarcastic not some ignorant dumb fool)


ROTFLMAO!

Will Wright left EA over 20 years ago. Maxis is dead; it is no more. It is time to let it go, the name "Maxis" is nothing more than a brand name and hollow husk of its former self that is now full of microtransactions and surprise mechanics. One doesn't have to look any further than Sims Mobile to see that in action. And if we're going to talk about how stupid people are, Will Wright walked with $125 million in stock when Maxis was sold. Not so stupid from where I'm sitting; then considering that 20-plus years later, the husk known as Maxis is only making $300 million says a lot about the state of the franchise; none of which is good.

Quote:
Acquisition by Electronic Arts In 1997 Maxis agreed to be acquired by Electronic Arts by means of a stock swap which valued Maxis at $125 million.[6] The transaction completed on July 28, 1997.[7] Over 1998 Maxis was allowed to finish SimCity 3000 on its own time; following this, Wright's efforts were thrown into The Sims, at the time seen as a major gamble for the company, as the dollhouse game was not seen as a match for the video game market's demographics. The Sims was released in February 2000; its success buoyed Wright's reputation and saved Maxis as a separate working unit.[citation needed] For the first half of the decade, Maxis continued to produce expansions and sequels to The Sims. In 2004, Maxis' longtime studios in Walnut Creek were closed,[8] and the staff moved to EA offices in Redwood City.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maxis

While you deem Will Wright as a fraud, he made a big chunk of cash, legally. As for the accusation of plagiarism, I guess that EA is also into plagiarism since they're the ones that bought the Sims franchise.

If using Will Wright as some kind of weird scapegoat makes you sleep better at night, okay, but seriously. Your rant doesn't make sense...
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