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#1 Old 27th Nov 2020 at 3:10 AM Last edited by jotaerre : 27th Nov 2020 at 2:34 PM. Reason: Add info
Default WCIF these hairs
I 'm looking this time for 2 hair conversions and a miracle.

In all 3 cases with more or less "realistic" natural textures, I prefer Pooklet but for the conversions maybe the original creators' textures may work for me, please not Maxis-match, I don't want cartoony nor Maxis-match genetics/makeups in my game.

The first one is Anto's Iris, I've looked at All the hairs with no luck.



The next hair in the list is Newsea's New Vegas, same bad luck at all the hairs, but I grabbed the mesh and the Volatile color at Redsimmer's blog no other color is available there, just some broken SFS links in a reblogged post.



And the miracle, a realistic hair or a realistic hair for both genders, similar to the one my angel Kerry is wearing in the next images, it cannot be any of those hideous Maxis helmets EA told us that are "Afro hairs" nor anything like them.




Thanks in advance.

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#2 Old 27th Nov 2020 at 7:31 AM Last edited by boseknows : 27th Nov 2020 at 7:39 AM. Reason: changed link to the posts with relevant tags
I don't know if she has exactly what you're looking for, but I know I found a bunch of Anto and Newsea conversions and recolors on this blog: https://krabbysims.tumblr.com/tagged/dl-hair
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#3 Old 27th Nov 2020 at 12:50 PM Last edited by jotaerre : 27th Nov 2020 at 7:37 PM.
Quote: Originally posted by boseknows
I don't know if she has exactly what you're looking for, but I know I found a bunch of Anto and Newsea conversions and recolors on this blog: https://krabbysims.tumblr.com/tagged/dl-hair

Thank you so much @boseknows I'm checking her blog right now, but the only stuff I can see is Maxis-match, hence it's not for my tastes.

From now on I'm just a lurker, the sad truth about the Orwellian status of the sims community is not "off-topic" neither is "politics".
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#4 Old 27th Nov 2020 at 3:16 PM
Hey JR , hope you are well my friend. Newsea New Vegas here https://mrs-mquve.dreamwidth.org/63268.html#cutid1, no idea on the other two you seek.

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#5 Old 27th Nov 2020 at 3:38 PM
Fakebloood is pretty much active, You can ask if they can reupload Newsea New Vegas for you. https://fakebloood.tumblr.com/
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#6 Old 27th Nov 2020 at 5:34 PM
Quote: Originally posted by MOOKIEBLAYLOCK
Hey JR , hope you are well my friend. Newsea New Vegas here https://mrs-mquve.dreamwidth.org/63268.html#cutid1, no idea on the other two you seek.


Thank you so much my friend @MOOKIEBLAYLOCK besides the political and economic situation here I'm fine, about the file, I'll have to download and check them offline since I cannot see a natural color in the post, I'm just making an attempt to get the file at SFS but I'm getting errors in the download, lately SFS is not behaving as well as we expect.

Quote: Originally posted by Annaminna
Fakebloood is pretty much active, You can ask if they can reupload Newsea New Vegas for you. https://fakebloood.tumblr.com/


Thanks a lot @Annaminna that's a good idea, I'll make a try, I thought they were inactive as all I get in any link to internal pages in fakeblood's main page are error messages in Russian language, the repost I told was in redsimmer's blog was from that page, looks good at Redsimmer's but goes directly to an error page in fakeblood's one.

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#7 Old 27th Nov 2020 at 9:26 PM
Quote: Originally posted by jotaerre
I'll have to download and check them offline since I cannot see a natural color in the post, I'm just making an attempt to get the file at SFS but I'm getting errors in the download, lately SFS is not behaving as well as we expect.

I can't find the post now, but I have this image file that I downloaded from Mrs. MQuve's blog last year showing the hair colors that she usually uses. I tried to download that hair to confirm that these colors were in the file you wanted, but SFS refused to respond. I guess it's down again for awhile.
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#8 Old 27th Nov 2020 at 10:10 PM
Thank you @RoxEllen1965 that's I wanted to know, If the package has Dinamite, depth charge and Explosive, I'll be happy to grab it, I still didn't download the file, I had some bandwidth issues today, but I'm about to.

From now on I'm just a lurker, the sad truth about the Orwellian status of the sims community is not "off-topic" neither is "politics".
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#9 Old 28th Nov 2020 at 9:57 PM
I just came across this blog entry with a couple sims with hairs that might be to your liking: https://serabiet.tumblr.com/post/15...ad-post-to-date
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#10 Old 29th Nov 2020 at 10:14 PM
Thanks again RoxEllen, boseknows and my old buddy Mookie.

@boseknows I visited your link and found Rhoa, the first female sim pretty interesting also her hair in the left of the pic, I'm not fond to download sims due the content, but she looks beautiful, her skin has a Pooklet's vibe and that is a positive point in my book, and the hair if it is the one on te left side, can be a nice afro hair, at least it's what her pic tells me, I didn't download her because SFS didn't allowed me to access the file, but I'll make another try later.

@RoxEllen1965 and @MOOKIEBLAYLOCK I dowloaded the New Vegas hair and it has the palette you told me, thanks to your help I see that hair as found, unless I find/make something more likelife I'll use those colors in my game, here is the Explosive color:


I told I was looking for 2 hairs and a miracle, now it looks like a hair and 2 miracles, still waiting for these miracles to happen. .

From now on I'm just a lurker, the sad truth about the Orwellian status of the sims community is not "off-topic" neither is "politics".
Check part of my current (non sims) creations at my J.R.'s Angels page
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#11 Old 1st Dec 2020 at 9:03 AM Last edited by boseknows : 1st Dec 2020 at 9:25 AM.
Again, these probably aren't quite what you're looking for, but for what it's worth: https://ddeathflower.tumblr.com/pos...e-here-are-four

Oh, and here's a link to that hair from the one sim you liked: https://infinitesimblr.tumblr.com/p...ire-afro-3t2-v4
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#12 Old 2nd Dec 2020 at 4:00 PM
Quote: Originally posted by jotaerre
I 'm looking this time for 2 hair conversions and a miracle.

In all 3 cases with more or less "realistic" natural textures, please not Maxis-match, I don't want cartoony nor Maxis-match genetics/makeups in my game.


@boseknows I'm very grateful with you by the interest you put in trying to help me in the search of these hairs, I already downloaded and checked with Clean Installer Rhoa, the sim you told me a couple of posts back and think she's awesome, still need to install her but I'll do it, just I have my own way to make this stuff seeking to avoid failures due to my game setup, about your latest post, I opened the first link and closed the page as soon loaded the pic, it's the kind of content I don't want in my game, i'm looking for lifelike hairs not toon ones, then MM is not useful for me, I'm just seeing the second link right now, I'll tell you about it later.

A tight hug and thanks again.

From now on I'm just a lurker, the sad truth about the Orwellian status of the sims community is not "off-topic" neither is "politics".
Check part of my current (non sims) creations at my J.R.'s Angels page
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#13 Old 5th Dec 2020 at 2:17 AM
@jotaerre it just so happens I'm on a search for hairs myself, and I'm happy to share anything I come across that might lead you to what you're looking for.

For instance, I just found this blog with a bunch of hair conversions, a few of which look like they might be of interest to you.
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#14 Old 6th Dec 2020 at 11:06 PM
Thanks again @boseknows curiously I already have some nice hairs from Grecadea sims and always recommended their Merida hair, in its dark shades (black-dark brown) it's one of the most beautiful hairs I ever had, its lighter tones are a bit disappointing for my tastes due to their lack of contrast and sharpness, if I well remember I also have the Foofeedoo curls, Yana and Withley hairs from there.

A couple of pics more to keep the reminder of what I'm looking for. (unlike my angel Kerry pics in the main post, images and model does not belong to me)




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#15 Old 7th Dec 2020 at 12:35 AM Last edited by simmer22 : 7th Dec 2020 at 8:56 PM.
The "Cloud Nine" hair looks a bit like that one: https://mrs-mquve.dreamwidth.org/70515.html (bit blockier, maybe bigger, but roughly same shape).

Is that Kerry character from one of the sims games (TS3)? If not, it could be the hair is rendered differently than in the Sims games - getting those round hairstyles to look good with either a blocky mesh or a whole heap of alpha planes can be a challenge without it getting too high-poly. Depending on which game (or other type of media) it is, it could be possible to convert the hair, depending on how it's made (if it's a hair render, probably not).

Can't find the Iris hair, but the Isabel hair isn't too far from it: https://mrs-mquve.dreamwidth.org/101397.html
(Maybe put in a conversation request at GoS or somewhere else for the Iris hair if it's nowhere to be found?)

Also found a few other curly hairs while I was looking around, just in case anyone is interested:
https://trappingit.livejournal.com/105561.html
https://gardenofshadows.org.uk/gard...p?topic=32758.0
https://timeparadoxsims.tumblr.com/...s-apparently-an
https://mrs-mquve.dreamwidth.org/101312.html
https://timeparadoxsims.tumblr.com/...d-mesh-anto-4t2
https://mrs-mquve.dreamwidth.org/41727.html
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#16 Old 7th Dec 2020 at 1:46 AM
This one seems close to the first picture. https://blackswan-sims.tumblr.com/p...is-both-genders
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#17 Old 7th Dec 2020 at 8:56 PM Last edited by simmer22 : 7th Dec 2020 at 9:09 PM.
A few possible ones for the short curly one (there are very few large, poofy, curly hairs, I've noticed - and all seem to have the wrong shape...)

https://timeparadoxsims.tumblr.com/...ed-as-requested
https://infinitesimblr.tumblr.com/p...se-curls-3t2-v4
https://hexanticle.livejournal.com/24196.html
https://infinitesimblr.tumblr.com/p...ire-afro-3t2-v4
https://trappingit.livejournal.com/107441.html
https://mrs-mquve.dreamwidth.org/99172.html

There's one called "Cherub"/"Seraph" (male/female). It doesn't have super realistic textures, but the shape isn't too bad. Could maybe work with a retexture if you want it even more realistic, but I think it could be a bit difficult to retexture because the curly shapes are mostly in the texture and not in the mesh. It's quite a bit shorter than what you want, though.
https://modthesims.info/d/152570/qu...s-all-ages.html
https://modthesims.info/download.php?t=213841 Female
https://mrs-mquve.dreamwidth.org/41996.html
https://modthesims.info/d/376366 - Alfie's retexture for males (it's quite nice, not sure if it exists for the female version)
https://hat-plays-sims.dreamwidth.org/17211.html Hat's Pooklet versions (they're 2 different places in the topic, "Keep It Simple" for the male version and "Postulate" for the female version)
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#18 Old 11th Dec 2020 at 5:16 AM
@Charity I'm just checking your link and liked a lot what my eyes see there, that Simpliciaty May 4t2 looks adorable in the image, thanks a bunch.

@simmer22 I'll have to spend a long time with the huge amount of link you posted in both replies, Thank you so much for all of these and above all for taking your time to collect them for me, it's a beautiful detail on your side and I really appreciate it. :lovestruc

Quote: Originally posted by simmer22
Is that Kerry character from one of the sims games (TS3)? If not, it could be the hair is rendered differently than in the Sims games - getting those round hairstyles to look good with either a blocky mesh or a whole heap of alpha planes can be a challenge without it getting too high-poly. Depending on which game (or other type of media) it is, it could be possible to convert the hair, depending on how it's made (if it's a hair render, probably not).


Now let me go a bit "off topic" to talk about my angel Kerry and the hair she wears in most of my renders with her as main subject.

First of all her hair is not a traditional strand hair with several layers of strands with an opacity/alpha map in them, (already high poly) this particular hair was created with a technology called Fiber Mesh, it means that every single curl in the mesh is a high poly strand for a total of more than a quarter million quads in the whole hair model, imagine it it has to be triangulated for a gaming platform like the sims games, more than half million polys for a single haircut, it's very recursive even for the platform I use it, then I doubt that any gaming platform can be able to handle its poly count, but it is one of the most gorgeous hairs I have for the Daz/Poser platforms.

Being said this, my angel Kerry is not a sim game character, much less a pudding one, I must confess that your comment in that part made me go very sad of seeing one of my dearest angels being seen as a pudding face from TS3, she really is a custom morph for Daz3D's Genesis 2 Female figure, sculpted with Hexagon 2.5 a modeling tool also from Daz3D, all my angels are done in that way, sometimes created with Hexagon, sometimes with Blacksmith 3D a specific tool for morphing and texturing models, the early ones were done with Blender, and most of their images were rendered with 3Delight or Pixar's Renderman, sadly I cannot access to more expensive modeling tools or render engines.


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#19 Old 11th Dec 2020 at 7:20 PM
I didn't actually think the character looked like TS3, mostly based on the face and hair (and a few other things), but these days people are editing their sims (with CC and sliders etc.) and pictures to the point where it's sometimes difficult to tell, and occasionally there can be some overlap in looks to other 3D graphics, so it's not always easy to be 100% sure - which is why I asked.

Would've been a lot easier to convert a TS3 hair than a polygon nightmare from a hair renderer, though. Or if it was from another game or some other type of lower-poly media.

Could be it's possible to lower the polycount to something that's halfway workable for a game, but you'd probably still be far past what the game prefers to work with (25-28000 polys seems to be a rough limit before the game starts showing the hair as invisible if shaders aren't on, and about twice or three times that and Milkshape throws in the towel and doesn't want to show the mesh. "Sensible" for a hair mesh is preferably far below 15000).

Still, have to say I gotta love that hair. Would love having something similar for my sims.
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#20 Old 18th Dec 2020 at 5:18 AM
@Charity I've tried that Simpliacity May hair and its simply adorable, has a nice level of realism and does not have any transparency issue as is too frequent in these kind of alpha hairs, even overlapping other alpha meshes, like my T-shirt in the image, the only postwork in the image was done to crop it from the full size screenshot.
@simmer22 I've visited most of your links, liked and grabbed Anto Carlota and Anto Ainhoa from your links, already had Simpliciaty Skai from Sim paradox and it promise to become one of my fave sim hairs, at least the darker shades.

Once again a big thank you from the bottom of my heart to both of you. :lovestruc


Quote: Originally posted by simmer22
Would've been a lot easier to convert a TS3 hair than a polygon nightmare from a hair renderer, though. Or if it was from another game or some other type of lower-poly media.

Could be it's possible to lower the polycount to something that's halfway workable for a game, but you'd probably still be far past what the game prefers to work with (25-28000 polys seems to be a rough limit before the game starts showing the hair as invisible if shaders aren't on, and about twice or three times that and Milkshape throws in the towel and doesn't want to show the mesh. "Sensible" for a hair mesh is preferably far below 15000).


Well my dear @simmer22 , that haircut is one of these polygon nightmares and beyond, it's a Render Nightmare that takes hours to get properly rendered, the first image of Kerry in the main post is a crop from the original image, a medium sized one (1760x2200) I was happy when I rendered it, because it was rendering really fast, I was expecting a render time of about 3 hours, when it started rendering the hair it became very slow, at the end took about 15 hours only for the hair.
But I love that hair, not only for its realism, but for its versatility, all the renders I posted to the thread were done with the same hair, the mines with my angel Kerry and the ones (not mine) with Daz3D's Victoria 4, even the next two are done with that hair.




Quote: Originally posted by simmer22
Still, have to say I gotta love that hair. Would love having something similar for my sims.


Me too. .

From now on I'm just a lurker, the sad truth about the Orwellian status of the sims community is not "off-topic" neither is "politics".
Check part of my current (non sims) creations at my J.R.'s Angels page
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