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#76 Old 26th Aug 2010 at 3:49 PM
Quote: Originally posted by Exyll
but in a country filled with shitty parents waiting to sue anyone for their childs shortcomings, people started to blame their violent behavior in their kids on the TV they watched, so ya, it was Bug's fault your kid is bouncing off the walls and cursing at you...it certainly cant be the parents, oh no.


Part of being a good parent is keeping inappropriate material away from kids. A poor parent uses the television as a babysitter.

Quote: Originally posted by crocobaura
By this judgement Tom & Jerry, Buggs Bunny cartoons and other classical cartoons are not fit for teens either because they too contain violence, suggestive themes, crude humour, minimal blood, simulated gambling, and/or infrequent use of strong language.


Bugs Bunny and the cartoons never dealt with sexual issues, and certainly they did not "woohoo" with other cartoon characters. The toon's activity is of a very different nature than that of the sims.

I would also point out that your argument here is really with the Entertainment Software Rating Board. They are the ones who make the ratings and set the standards.

Also, sites like this one, do not allow pre-teens to access the site and the material on it.
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Lab Assistant
#77 Old 26th Aug 2010 at 3:57 PM
Quote: Originally posted by tjstreak
Part of being a good parent is keeping inappropriate material away from kids. A poor parent uses the television as a babysitter.

Bugs Bunny and the cartoons never dealt with sexual issues, and certainly they did not "woohoo" with other cartoon characters.


Are you suggesting 13 year olds don't know what sex is or where babies come from? Movies and books appropriate for teens give suggestions of sex all the time. Once you don't SEE anything indecent, it's fine. The same go for games. The sims go under the covers and giggle a little. So? You could even explain that to a 5 year old. "Well, they just did a "special hug" under the covers and then God put a baby in her belly." I dare you to name one issue in the sims that a well-developed 13 year old can't handle.
Lab Assistant
#78 Old 26th Aug 2010 at 3:58 PM
Quote: Originally posted by tjstreak
Bugs Bunny and the cartoons never dealt with sexual issues, and certainly they did not "woohoo" with other cartoon characters.

Neither did my reply, why are we back on sex?
Whats on your mind today streak?!!!111


Not to derail but speaking of the WB cartoons, millions grew up on them and went on to lead normal adult lives. Isnt the point of childraising to make your kid better than you?
Why do we now think that our kids are too stupid to make the same difference?

I never once thought of pulling a cannon out of my back pocket and firing point blank range into my friends mouth, nor did I ever think that if I ever ran off a cliff that I would hang in mid air for a few seconds, or that if I whipped out an umbrella that I would leaf-fall gently to the ground.
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#79 Old 26th Aug 2010 at 4:03 PM
Quote: Originally posted by socherish
Are you suggesting 13 year olds don't know what sex is or where babies come from? Movies and books appropriate for teens give suggestions of sex all the time. Once you don't SEE anything indecent, it's fine. The same go for games. The sims go under the covers and giggle a little. So? You could even explain that to a 5 year old. "Well, they just did a "special hug" under the covers and then God put a baby in her belly."


Oh, yes, I fully expect the teeney bopper chorus to object to my postings.

And yes, I would be VERY concerned about an over-sexualized 13 year old. This tends to be a very troubled age group.

This game certainly does not belong in the hands of a five year old. Any parent who would have their five year old playing it is seriously lacking in parenting skills.
Lab Assistant
#80 Old 26th Aug 2010 at 4:07 PM
Quote: Originally posted by tjstreak
Oh, yes, I fully expect the teeney bopper chorus to object to my postings.

And yes, I would be VERY concerned about an over-sexualized 13 year old. This tends to be a very troubled age group.

This game certainly does not belong in the hands of a five year old. Any parent who would have their five year old playing it is seriously lacking in parenting skills.


I wasn't suggesting a five year old should play it - I was saying all the "inappropriate" things in the Sims could easily be explained away by an adult to pretty much anyone. Knowing what sex is makes us over sexulized? Seeing two people giggling under covers is not porn. Sex is something adults in love do. If you don't know that by 13, then I would worry about your parents.

edit: Again, I dare you to name one issue in the sims that a well-developed 13 year old can't handle.
Lab Assistant
#81 Old 26th Aug 2010 at 4:33 PM
Not only that, kids are WAY more on the ball than say 20 yrs ago. I mean c'mon, to think a 13 yr old cant handle anything that is thrown at them in the Sims in 2010 is, well, head in the sand.
Alchemist
#82 Old 26th Aug 2010 at 4:41 PM
Quote: Originally posted by Exyll
Not only that, kids are WAY more on the ball than say 20 yrs ago. I mean c'mon, to think a 13 yr old cant handle anything that is thrown at them in the Sims in 2010 is, well, head in the sand.


Hey, I was a teen nearly 30 years ago and we were also more 'on the ball' then than you realize. We were actually a lot less protected and sheltered back in the 70s than teens are now. Our hippie parents were all about letting us experience life and making our own choices before we were necessarily ready.
Lab Assistant
#83 Old 26th Aug 2010 at 4:41 PM
Quote: Originally posted by Exyll
Not only that, kids are WAY more on the ball than say 20 yrs ago. I mean c'mon, to think a 13 yr old cant handle anything that is thrown at them in the Sims in 2010 is, well, head in the sand.


Exactly! In many ways to me (I'm 14), the stuff in the sims is silly.
Woo-hoo, "juice" - the reason why I love the sims is how goofy and young it is. Anyone that has a 13 year old that doesn't know about sex is putting their child in danger.

If you don't know what sex is, you don't know what rape is-so when you're walking down a dangerous city street, you're not looking out for yourself.


Quote: Originally posted by calisims
Hey, I was a teen nearly 30 years ago and we were also more 'on the ball' then than you realize. We were actually a lot less protected and sheltered back in the 70s than teens are now. Our hippie parents were all about letting us experience life and making our own choices before we were necessarily ready.


And obviously knowing about mature things didn't mess you up for life. Kids that know about adult things can grow up to me sane, functioning adults.
Alchemist
#84 Old 26th Aug 2010 at 4:48 PM
Quote: Originally posted by socherish
And obviously knowing about mature things didn't mess you up for life. Kids that know about adult things can grow up to me sane, functioning adults.


I didn't say they couldn't. But I wouldn't recommend 15 year olds do drugs and have sex, just because I managed to survive it.
I should add, I have no problem with teens playing Sims, I don't think the content is inappropriate, I was just responding to the notion that teens in 'the old days' of 20 years ago were less knowledgeable about teh sex than teens today.
Lab Assistant
#85 Old 26th Aug 2010 at 4:50 PM
Quote: Originally posted by calisims
I didn't say they couldn't. But I wouldn't recommend 15 year olds do drugs and have sex, just because I managed to survive it.
I should add, I have no problem with teens playing Sims, I don't think the content is inappropriate, I was just responding to the notion that teens in 'the old days' of 20 years ago were less knowledgeable about teh sex than teens today.


I know, I meant knowing about these things, not doing it. I was just saying knowing what drugs and sex is isn't going to turn a little kid into a sex-crazed drug maniac.
Lab Assistant
#86 Old 26th Aug 2010 at 5:23 PM
Quote: Originally posted by calisims
Hey, I was a teen nearly 30 years ago and we were also more 'on the ball' then than you realize. We were actually a lot less protected and sheltered back in the 70s than teens are now. Our hippie parents were all about letting us experience life and making our own choices before we were necessarily ready.


I know, I was born in the 70s too. I was on a commodore 64 murdering people with chainsaws, pitchforks, impaling, decapitating with swords...you name it and there was blood and guts all over the place...30yrs later Im yet another taxpaying member of society- not in some basement sharpening a scythe and chanting gregorian verses.
Oh ya, there is one MASSIVE difference from then and now.
The Internet. Nuff said - without supervision, your kid will go from 13 to 28 in one login. So, the SIMS is the last place someone should be worrying about their kids picking up any unwanted influnences
Alchemist
#87 Old 26th Aug 2010 at 6:15 PM
Quote: Originally posted by Exyll
I know, I was born in the 70s too. I was on a commodore 64 murdering people with chainsaws, pitchforks, impaling, decapitating with swords...you name it and there was blood and guts all over the place...30yrs later Im yet another taxpaying member of society- not in some basement sharpening a scythe and chanting gregorian verses.
Oh ya, there is one MASSIVE difference from then and now.
The Internet. Nuff said - without supervision, your kid will go from 13 to 28 in one login. So, the SIMS is the last place someone should be worrying about their kids picking up any unwanted influnences


While we didn't have the internet back then, we did have access to porn when left unsupervised. We also were able to get our hands on real drugs and have real sex, which the internet can't do for you. I don't think internet access makes as much of a difference, it's whether or not parents are supervising their children or letting them do whatever they want.
If you read my later post, I wasn't saying that Sims is inappropriate for teens, I was just commenting that teens back in my day knew as much about sex, drugs and 'mature themes' as kids today.
Field Researcher
#89 Old 26th Aug 2010 at 7:34 PM Last edited by Marcos_Edson : 26th Aug 2010 at 7:35 PM. Reason: typo...
Quote: Originally posted by kissy_clare
What about a 'WooHoo in Park' interaction for 'Loves the great outdoors' Sims? If you get caught your Sim has to spend time in jail and they get a huge embarresed moodlet.


Definitely not a big deal in Sims terms, in The Sims 2 you could have sims woohoo on those clothing booths in shops and the other sims around would cheer them up...
Alchemist
#90 Old 26th Aug 2010 at 7:35 PM
Quote: Originally posted by kissy_clare
What about a 'WooHoo in Park' interaction for 'Loves the great outdoors' Sims? If you get caught your Sim has to spend time in jail and they get a huge embarresed moodlet.


I like the idea of woohoo in the park, but Sims require an object to woohoo in or on, and EA likes to have that object be something they can hide the woohoo animation in, like under the bed covers or in a tent, or back in Sims 2, under the water of the hot tub.
I'd love an embarrassed moodlet for getting caught. Back in Sims 2, if you had woohoo in a photobooth, you would draw a huge crowd to cheer or boo at your Sim, but the Sims being caught never had any reaction to the crowd gathered.
I'd especially love bringing my YA Sims on dates DT, woohoo in the photobooth, and be cheered by their parents, and not be mortified that their parents were cheering for them getting it on in a photobooth.
As for jail time for public woohoo, that might be funny. Most people I know that caught by cops in public don't actually get arrested, they just get told to take it home though.
Mad Poster
#91 Old 26th Aug 2010 at 10:27 PM
Quote: Originally posted by tjstreak
Bugs Bunny and the cartoons never dealt with sexual issues, and certainly they did not "woohoo" with other cartoon characters. The toon's activity is of a very different nature than that of the sims.


Actually I remember clearly that both Jerry and Bugs Bunny had a girlfriend they would kiss every now and then, and they would interract pretty much like people and each episode had some kind of story you could learn something from, it's wasn't just violence.

Quote: Originally posted by calisims
I like the idea of woohoo in the park, but Sims require an object to woohoo in or on, and EA likes to have that object be something they can hide the woohoo animation in, like under the bed covers or in a tent, or back in Sims 2, under the water of the hot tub......As for jail time for public woohoo, that might be funny. Most people I know that caught by cops in public don't actually get arrested, they just get told to take it home though.


In Sims2 they did woohoo in the hammock, maybe in Sims3 they could woohoo on a bench, or on the picnic blanket. Or maybe even under a street light, against a car or someone's house. Anyway, in my country people caught woohooing in public get a fine, which is pretty embarassing if you ask me.
Mad Poster
#92 Old 27th Aug 2010 at 12:51 AM
[QUOTE=tjstreak]Part of being a good parent is keeping inappropriate material away from kids. A poor parent uses the television as a babysitter.[QUOTE]
Inappropriate material that we aren't 'supposed' to have tends to be how we learn about the world and its ways.
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